What a masterful performance

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd barely won, I mean barely. With one clean shot Canelo could have turned over some of those swing rounds, but he didn't really press the action enough and you have to be more convincing to win close rounds vs Mayweather.
     
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    Anything from about even to Mayweather by several rounds is acceptable with that many swing rounds, just depends how you score all those close rounds. Also it really depends I think on how much of a Mayweather fan you are. Despite being outlanded, Canelo won the ring generalship category in most rounds with all those feints and forcing Floyd to fight out of his element. He was really frustrating Mayweather by choosing to box Mayweather instead of be aggressive like most of Mayweather's opponents. Mayweather never experienced anything like that before.
     
  3. Pimp C

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    Yes it was indeed PBF past his best at 36 in his 5th weight class beat Canelo easily shutting him out where as GGG a career MW who was favored and expected to KHTFO went life and death with him and was 0-1-1 against him thus showing his true level. Let that sink in.:deal:
    PBF>Canelo>GGG it's irrefutable.:deal::risas3:
     
  4. Mirko

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    Not a fan of Floyd, not a fan of Canelo, however I admire both for their boxing ability and skills. They are great great fighters. When they fought I was cheering for Canelo, and had Floyd winning 10 rounds, with one even and one for Canelo. Rewatched the fight a few times and never gave Floyd less than 10 rounds. He just dominated him, it wasn't close. Canelo learned a lot from this fight and became a much better fighter.
     
  5. northpaw

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    Are you trolling? I mean seriously, are you..........because............I don't even know anymore. :facepalm:
     
  6. shadow111

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    Trolling ? lol I'm keeping it real. The reason why most fans on here say otherwise is because they are either huge Mayweather fans or Canelo haters. All 3 judges had it closer than 10-2 and that was in Mayweather's backyard. I see the fight pretty much the way the judges saw it, a close Mayweather win with a lot of tight rounds.
     
  7. shadow111

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    If you don't think this match was close on a round by round basis you're in la la land. But we've seen the same phenomena with the two GGG fights, so this is no surprise. Many posters on here simply don't like Canelo for whatever reason and as a result aren't able to score his fights accurately.
     
  8. shadow111

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    All the rounds except for round 7 were tight. I'm not saying giving 10 rounds to Mayweather is unreasonable because of how close the rounds were. If you give the same fighter close round after close round you can have a close fight scored wide. That's what happened here in a lot of fans minds. Granted Canelo didn't win many rounds clearly, you can even argue he didn't win any rounds clearly but neither did Mayweather aside from round 7. When you have a fight involving Mayweather where neither guy is winning rounds clearly then it shouldn't be a shock that Mayweather won a decision, or won almost all of the close rounds. He's Mayweather.
     
  9. shadow111

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    You can even say that it was a masterful performance from Floyd. Floyd definitely made the kinds of adjustments that a masterclass fighter makes to win this fight. But it wasn't masterful from start to finish, and don't tell me this was an easy win for Floyd. It was very tough sledding over the first 6 rounds for Mayweather. Round 7 Floyd took control though. That's what happened, and trying to deny what I'm saying is just silly.
     
  10. shadow111

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    Just to more directly respond to this part of your comment, you first need to realize that most of Mayweather's fights aren't close, most of the time Mayweather just dominates people. Even if you think Floyd won that clearly, which I can accept, still you had Canelo fighting Floyd closer than practically anyone else had at that point. We can disagree on exactly how close it was, but if you watch those first 6 rounds they were way closer rounds than the typical Mayweather fight. It was clearly different and closer than what we're used to with Floyd.

    So when that happened, it was more intense than the average Mayweather fight because most of the time Floyd just dominates. Like Mosley had his moment on Floyd in round 2, but besides that it was a Floyd domination. When Canelo beat Mosley it was pretty dominate also, but he didn't get caught and in the kind of trouble Floyd was in that 2nd round vs Mosley. When Canelo beat Cotto, he was arguably more dominate and impressive than when Mayweather beat Cotto. Part of that was Cotto was older and Canelo was more into his prime but still. Canelo never really had Floyd in trouble or anything, but Floyd was pulling back hard throughout the bout to avoid getting hit. We never really seen Floyd utilize such hard pull backs before and it had everything to do with Canelo's speed and skills.
     
  11. shadow111

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    Straight up Floyd was fighting out of his mind vs Canelo. Like he was on another level that night. Mentally physically, it was the last time Floyd truly resembled his prime. I know he was 36, but look at his physique, look at how dialed in he was that night. Then look at him a year later vs Maidana. Floyd was nowhere near as sharp vs Maidana as he was vs Canelo. Floyd knew Maidana was an easier fight so he didn't have to train as hard to get the W. This is pretty basic stuff. In boxing you can get old overnight and fighting Canelo took a lot out of Floyd. If Floyd would have rematched Canelo at 154 he knew how hard it would be to win that war, so he took the easier fight in Maidana, then rematched Maidana. And that's not a slight to Maidana, Maidana's a tough customer but he's no Canelo. And lets be real, the version of Maidana who fought Khan way back when was a better fighter than the versions of Maidana who fought Floyd. By then Maidana had slowed down. There's levels to this.
     
  12. northpaw

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    Unbiased, Floyd won 9 to 10 rounds. The rounds weren't very close at all. We don't even need to go down the road of judges and some of their dubious scorecards.
     
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    Because he and his team are cheats.

    It's that simple.
     
  14. George Crowcroft

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    He's incredibly skilled, indeed one of the best but he's about 15 on my list
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

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    Floyd proved his class, he knew he was the better counter puncher and so let Canelo be the aggressor. This, Mosely and Marquez are possibly his greatest performances