What about Jake LaMotta?

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  1. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen the Raging Bull and everything and his actual fight film and there's one thing that gets me. Why is he portrayed as a powerful puncher? His KO ratio is very low for the number of fights he had. I know how he was controlled by the Mob. Did they give him orders to carry fighters throughout a fight and not KO him?
     
  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jake LaMotta was not a powerful puncher, but he was always in the face of an opponent. attacking and never letting up. Simular to an early Duran. Occasionally he would get the knockout, but mostly he would weardown his opponent and go to a decision. LaMotta was not Controlled by the Mob. If you pay closer attention to the Movie. His lack of cooperation was the reason he did not get a title shot years earlier. In order to finally get a title shot he had to cooperate with the Mob for ONE fight against Billy Fox. He threw that fight so the Mob could bet against him and win alot of Money. Then about a year later when everything died down. LaMotta got his title shot as promised against Marcel Cerdan.
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Very complete answer.
     
  4. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i dont know about not being a hard puncher. watch the cerdan title fight and at the end jake and cerdans handler have to help hold cerdan up as jake walks him around the ring with his arm raised. he looked pretty beat up and out of it to me.
     
  5. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just watrched lamotta-murphy II and it looked like jake could hit pretty hard to me he really rocked murphy
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jake could hit, He dropped Robinson and stopped Cerdan and others, There were so many good fighter in top condition in those days with experience in the ring and gyms, It was compettitve but Jake was a Bull...He was shunned by the mob because he was not controlled by them, they reached his brother for the Fox DIVe then they allowed him to get a shot but the win over Cerdan was a legit win. The mob just removed the block...like King did in the 80's and 90's
     
  7. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he wasn't into the power game but he was an accumalitive puncher ...and he'd catch you from odd angles lungeing in the way he did ...

    lamotta used to beat the **** out of the mob and send them packing whenever they'd **** around with him ..

    in his book he states when he was about 17 him and a friend held up a mafia dice game with one gun ... made all these made men and **** line up agianst the walll .. at one point one of them mouthes off and lamotta bashes his head with the gun ... the rest just keep quiet and proceed to get ripped off blind by a very VERY green lamotta lmao

    dude wasn't normal by any stretch of the imagination
     
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker Full Member

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    Jake was a decent puncher ... let's keep in mind two things...

    the first is that for most of his career he killed himself to make weight and that drains a fighter. He was a natural 168 pounder in an era without a 168 pound division ...

    secondly he fought an exceptional level of opposition. He fought all the tough black fighters of his era that many white and black fighters ducked.

    LaMotta is under rated today . He was a very talented, terrific fighter.
     
  9. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    bingo hegrant...lamotta is my favorite fighter and alot of it is because he ducked very few men
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Whilst I agree with you that Jake was a cracking fighter, and one of the few to step up and take on some of the guys on the black murderers row, but he ducked Burley and didn't take on Williams until Holman was close to washed up...Williams pushed him hard.
     
  11. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mcgrain as much of a fan of his that i am...your right ..i can't deny that
     
  12. Bummy Davis

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    Yea but he stopped Bob Satterfield and Satterfield KO'd Cleveland "BIG CAT" WILLIAMS and KO"d Heavyweight Bob Baker in 1 and Had Big Nino Valdez on the floor for a 9count in the last rd of a UD..you cant fight everyone but Lamotta had no fear of anyone
     
  13. CottoDaBodykill

    CottoDaBodykill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agian i see truth in this also ...

    with a record like lamotta its hard to blame a guy for ducking...he fought a list of whose who
     
  14. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    I haven't seen anyone consider LaMotta a powerful puncher.
     
  15. paidinrakim

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    foreal b the man was a beast to bad we aint got any of his fights in his prime ya dig