What about Mayweather vs Calzaghe?

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  1. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they are only 2 1/2 inches in height and 1 inch in reach difference.
    This would truly determine the P4P champion
     
  2. DINAMITA

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    There's no way this is serious??

    If it is, you really need to take up a new sport mate. Calzaghe would dominate every minute of every round until the ref stepped in - and that's despite Mayweather being a far far far better and more skilled fighter IMO. Floyd is a natural superfeather, Calzaghe is a natural supermiddle - don't you see what a lamentable idea this is?? Mayweather would find the size of a Margarito or a Williams very difficult to deal with IMO, so the thought of him fighting The Ring lhw champion is just stupid.

    And even if they did fight, how would the world p4p#3 fighting a guy who is no longer ranked in the p4p top 10 truly determine who is number 1???? :patsch
     
  3. BadJuju83

    BadJuju83 Bolivian Full Member

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    Also imagine the mass suicide of the fans of the loser.
     
  4. Infern0

    Infern0 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hmm I don't think PBF is a FAR FAR FAR better skilled fighter, perhaps he edges it.

    Joe's size wins it easily, though if they were the same size, it would be a boring but even fight imo, split decision either way
     
  5. Close fight. Joe's feather-fisted and much less skilled. Floyd's not 40 either. Take away the advantage of being champ so that Floyd doesn't have to be the aggressor and he could stay away from Joe and pot shot him as he comes in. Joe would get caught with right hands over and over and over again. Joe can't avoid the right hand from an elite fighter who's over the hill (Eubank, Hopkins, Jones) and certainly couldn't from a prime Mayweather.
     
  6. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  7. ZippyMan

    ZippyMan Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather isn't much faster and isn't any better than Calzaghe. Also, Calzaghe isn't feather fisted. He can turn up the power if and when he needs to. He never needs to risk his hands when he is winning on the cards.
     
  8. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Pound for pound - Mayweather

    Head to head - Calzaghe...... easy !


    Close thread ASAP.
     
  9. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    calzaghe took away kesslers/hopkins/jones right hand after 3 to 4 rounds in thise fights.

    exccept for round 12 in the kessler fight , you can count on your fingers the number of clean right hands calzaghe took.
    he is much better defensivley when he wants to be than anybody gives him credit for.
    he adapted aftera few rounds , as he says, he then read the right hands and saw them coming and was able to slip them.

    hopkins and jones in 24 rounds managed to land a grand total of 23 jabs in 24 rounds on calzaghe.


    how about calzaghe decides to stay on the outside of mayweather as he did v kessler.
    move his feet pump his jab non stop , pot shot with the straight left get out, flurry combo`s and get out .

    plus have you factored in what moving up 4 weight divisions would do to mayweather`s foot movement and stamina.

    ashira is the smallest fighter calzaghe has faced and he was a light middle /middle and looked like a dwarf despite being much bigger than mayweather.

    only steroids can make mayweather into a light heavy or if he became best friends with james toney.

    evans ashira 5.10 weighing 166 and now calzaghe has moved up another division higher still.
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  10. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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  11. calzaghe took away kesslers/hopkins/jones right hand after 3 to 4 rounds in thise fights.

    Right. But that misses the point. Joe couldn't avoid the Eubank right hand. Chris landed a bunch of hard shots, far more than Kessler, Hop or Jones. Joe showed a pretty good chin and had a great opening few rounds. Chris was non-peak, even at 31 or whatever he was then. It was a very close fight. Joe never solved the right hand in that fight. Hop and Jones are old men. Far, far from prime. Anywhere close to their prime, and Joe goes to sleep. Joe was hurt in the last seconds of the 12th against CE. Roy hurt Joe twice (1st and either the sixth or seventh). Other than that, Joe never fought an elite fighter (and never one in their prime). Mayweather is prime and smaller and quicker. He would land with impunity on Joe (especially a 37 or 38 year old Calzaghe). The thread starter said nothing about prime for prime or anything that might be used as a mitigating factor. So, this is a 30 year old Mayweather versus a 38 year old Calzahge.



    exccept for round 12 in the kessler fight , you can count on your fingers the number of clean right hands calzaghe took.
    he is much better defensivley when he wants to be than anybody gives him credit for.
    he adapted aftera few rounds , as he says, he then read the right hands and saw them coming and was able to slip them.


    Kessler doesn't have anything close to elite quickness.


    hopkins and jones in 24 rounds managed to land a grand total of 23 jabs in 24 rounds on calzaghe.


    Hopkins and Jones are dinosaurs. Hop may be a great dinosaur but he is not as quick as the 28/29 year old version. Not even close. Mayweather won't get tired like Hop. Joe will get tired before Floyd. Surely, you noticed the difference in athleticism between Calzaghe and Hop/Jones? They couldn't pull the trigger consistently against Joe. This had to do with their reflexes more than anything else. Floyd would have no such difficulty.


    how about calzaghe decides to stay on the outside of mayweather as he did v kessler.
    move his feet pump his jab non stop , pot shot with the straight left get out, flurry combo`s and get out .


    If he stays on the outside it could also be a staring contest. If neither is the champ then lack of aggression won't matter, just who lands more clean punches. Floyd's got better footwork and is more agile (though Joe is pretty darn good in these areas he will be 37/38 while Floyd is prime). He will time Joe coming in and nail him with the right. Except unlike Roy and BH he will do it all night long if Joe is unable to hurt Floyd (Joe's only advantage is to hope to apply his greater weight and size - it is possible but hardly guaranteed).


    plus have you factored in what moving up 4 weight divisions would do to mayweather`s foot movement and stamina.

    Well, a lot depends upon how the weight is addressed. Does Calzaghe enter the ring at 168? 175? 180? Floyd could make 155-160. It would remain to be seen.

    ashira is the smallest fighter calzaghe has faced and he was a light middle /middle and looked like a dwarf despite being much bigger than mayweather.


    Ashira was terrible and got destroyed by an old man b4 Joe.

    only steroids can make mayweather into a light heavy or if he became best friends with james toney.

    That's true.


    Overall, what appears impossible to you should be tempered with the thought that this is a bit of an attempt to say FU to some of the stupid posts that get thrown out whenever JC gets mentioned. His nuthuggers want to believe JC would roll over FMJ and just about every fighter that has ever laced'em up on the planet when it just isn't reasonable to state that. JC doesn't KO anyone. His last KO was a good long time ago. If he couldn't KO Ashira (who sucks), he very likely won't be able to KO Floyd who is elite. There are lots of bums Joe couldn't KO in his career. The only doubt that can exist is due to the career size/weight differential. But, a 168 JC versus a 155 FMJ could be a very close fight when FMJ is prime and JC is the guy who looked rather unskilled versus 43 year old BHOP. Floyd won't be KOing Joe. That is as far as it goes.

    Gotta run. It's 2:35 am in Vegas. I got 4 hours until the markets open. Cheers.


    A bit more about Floyd over here .. if ya give a ****.
    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3105726#post3105726
     
  12. See Me Flow

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  13. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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  14. Hatesrats

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  15. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    This would be a boring ass fight with Mayweather running for the hills.

    He would never ever do it in a million years, its not even worth comprehending. He hasn't been keen on taking on welterweights, nevermind Calzaghe who I've heard him speak about in glowing terms.