What about Mayweather vs Calzaghe?

this thread sucks.

JC stops Mayweather when ever he wants, Too quick, far fitter, just too damm good for mayweather.

 

You are certifiably insane....SD, for ****s sake :-(

 

:admin ****! You guy's really believe Floyd would stand a chance against JC?
He's waaaayyyy too small! Maybe people are getting a bit carried away since Pac did his giant slaying act against Oscar.

 

That fails. I watched it for 30 seconds waiting for the little guy on the right to floor the bully with a sledgehammer punch.

 

you rarely lead with jabs against southpaws my friend the right hand is used as the set up shot

 

you get your left foot outside his front right foot and then you can jab against southpaws.

southpaw can counter right hand leads if he has decent footspeed and head movement and comes in outside the orthodox fighters left foot , making the orthodox fighter have no power and balance if he throws a righthand lead.

 

Spinks Taylor wasn't dissimilar.

 

If you starved Calzaghe like an African, so he was 150, took his Hospital bed to Las Vegas, stuck him in the ring, Floyd would win by default after Calzaghe collapsed before the first bell. He wouldn't be able to stand.

P4P at their Peak, it's debatable.
H2H it's a Massacre, Calzaghe KO 1.

 

in size i agree totally, would look similar physically wise if mayweather and calzaghe met.

but jermain taylor and calzaghe have two completely different mindsets.

taylor did the bare minumum against spinks, not prepared to look bad and not once ever did taylor go chasing spinks in 12 rounds prepared to perhaps miss with a few , in orrder to land a few.

his mindset is dont make yourself look bad .


if calzaghe had been fighting that spinks , he would have thrown the kitchen sink, anything and everything, not worrying about/style/form /is his hair in place/ and chased spinks so hard spinks would be up with the leaders of the marathon and IMO no way spinks would ever be competitive if he went in with calzaghe as he was with taylor.

put spinks in with a pavlik for example, pavlik would figure out he cannot pin this little ****er down, lets revevert to a plan B and now walk through him to get his own punches off.

we know calzaghe and pavlik type fighters would be prepared to do this with jermain his fights with wright/ouma/spinks/even both with hopkins / we know its not really part of his mindset.

 

Pfft. That ***** slapper couldnt KO my grandma in one round, not to mention the greatest defensive fighter of this generation possibly ever. :rofl

 

PBF should never even think about it. Getting Ko'd by slaps will ruin his legacy.

 

calzaghe is way way better defensivley today than he was with chris eubank when he was 25 years old.

against robin reid he also took right hands.

but calzaghe in his 20`s beleived he could ko fighters/planted his feet more and went for the ko letting rip with big punch`s and as a result getting caught with counter rights.

today he wears big padded grant gloves and is not worried about power ,

calzaghe`s experince and way more head movement than he used to give has meant he now reads right hands way better that it is not even comparible the difference between the 2 versions of the same fighter .

calzaghe showed us he is a great outside fighter v kessler.

if calzaghe had boxed like this against reid it would have been a shutout.
instead he went for a ko early and hurt his hand.

you have to aloow for weight increase.

you say mayweather is faster than kessler.
IMO look at winky wright.
the 170lb version of winky wright is bloated and has feet stuck in cement, not easily carrying the excess weight.
you have to allow for mayweather bulking up to fight a light heavyweight that it will affect his speed and stamina.

calzaghe can fight all night at a frantic pace-3 mins a round and not just againt old timers

kessler is younger than mayweather and calzaghe went into overdrive with his workrate.
i cannot see mayweather moving up 4 divisions to light heavy being this sleek footed /same as he ever was fighter you still beleive he will be .

increasing size/bulk/ to fight a light heavy will have a lot of effect on his mobilty and stamina.

i am factoring in that mayweather will not be very effective fighting the same way as he does now v judah/hatton/corley/boldomir/ 5.6 type fighters .

maybe the blueprint you have in mind is the 154 fight v dlh when mayweather potshotted dlh, in a competitive fight.
in hindsight dlh just got easily beaten by paq more easily.

go back a few years and you had dlh himself going up to middle , having his neck snapped back everytime by sturm jabs not being able to do much, hurt or even inconvience the much bigger man, winning the fight because he had a fight with hopkins pre scripted on the judges cards again in a fight where dlh was much to small.

yet mayweather`s task is to bypass light middles/middleweights/super middleweights and fight at light heavy and still have all his abilties and skills and fight a 46-0 fighter who has never fought lower than super middle in his whole career .

he is a great defensive and supremly gifted fighter.

IMO mayweather is not suited to fighting at anything over 147.
his body frame/height/build says to me anything over and it is the law of diminishing returns.
after all he was once a 130lb fighter.

as to what weight they would weigh?

whatever weight you stipulate to calzaghe would have to be 168 plus as he has never fought lower than that and will come in at 180 plus anyway after rehydrating.

look at the jones fight he had to suck up the liquids straight away and that he came in at 175.

mayweather 155 ? catchweight giving away 25lbs at the middle weight classes.

will it work ?

when sugar ray robinson fought lamotta at 160 he beat la motta 5 times out of 5 .

when sugar ray robinson loss to la motta , getting knocked down and pushed and dominated around the ring robinson was still a welterweight fighting a much bigger man in la motta and he lost.
he was not able to handle the weight difference.

thing is calzaghe is 2 divisons bigger than lamotta and has never been small enough to ever make middleweight and is now a light heavy.

good sensible debate from your point of view though argued valiently.

 

this fight only happens if Mayweather ages 10 years while Calzaghe is cryogenically frozen the whole time