What All Time Greats do you think Wlad Klitschko would beat?

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  1. Orang-Utan Jim

    Orang-Utan Jim Member Full Member

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    You are right that old school fighter were really tough *******s. I mean going 30 or 40 rounds is crazy. But I think nowadays fighters are not that mentally weak as you think. If boxing commissions today would install 25 rounders instead of 12 rounders I cannot see Lewis, Tyson or Klitschko pulling out of the game. So IMO size together with speed matters more than mental strenghts. I cannot see all the prewar fighters not getting hit flush several times in the first couple of rounds by these physical monsters.
     
  2. Vockerman

    Vockerman LightJunior SuperFlyweigt Full Member

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    Elightened I am by DECK-hed Hummmmmm?

    I rate Wlad with COONEY now!

    Much better is that hummmmmmm?

    As large - more modern, didn't unify!

    If Wald the belts to unify WANTED, take the fights for less money he could.
    But that is Willard's fault - Hummmm? Or Carnera's?

    How do I know a beating they would take -HuMMM?

    Educate me please...
     
  3. box03

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    Let me pose another question then, do you really think if there was even say 15 rounds as there was over 20 years, you would see alot of heavywieghts coming in alot lighter than they are today. Fighters like Lewis and Wlad, had stamina issues throughout there careers, we seen Lewis out of shape in the Vitali fight and a few others, we have seen Wlad get tired many fights against purrity,Brewster, and Mercer to name a few. If you made championship fights 15 rounds again you see fighters coming in a lighter wieghts.
     
  4. Sakura

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    I wanna see, when someone about 205 lbs can win Wladimir, or even take close fight...it never happen...novadays there are only 12 rounds matches and that's not Lewis or Klitchkos fault.

    Wladimir get tired, yes, but he might have extertion asthma or something..By the way wlad didint tired Mercer fight...he just punch Mercer out and easily, biased fight
     
  5. box03

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    Wlad was blue in the face I believe after the 3rd or 4th round, and lampley or Merchant commented on it. Watch the fight again, you will see what I mean.
     
  6. Relentless

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    i guess you think valuev can beat wlad?
     
  7. Sakura

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    I've seen fight a couple time and he always look same:yep I admit that they might be somekind of asthma, because he punch himself out so many times...
     
  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    He seemed to be ok in the last round against the Nigerian Nightmare :yep
     
  9. Sakura

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    Maybe, samuel was so easy opponent:hey
     
  10. Orang-Utan Jim

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    Not necessary. Maybe a little bit lighter but not really significant. Klitschko and Lewis maybe at 235 lbs. or so. BTW I don´t see Klitschko having real stamina issues. IMO it was more an issue to pace himself. Every sportsmen gasses, if he gives too much early.
    Even with 15 rounds I don´t see the big HW´s giving away their advantage in reach height and weight to the old school guys. Fighting a huge guy with accurate punching and an accurate jab, gives even the toughest *******s after a couple of rounds serious trouble. I am not saying the big guys would kick their asses in any case, but they would be favourites, definitely....

    Imagine a fight between Roy Jones jr. in 2000 at 190lbs. or so vs. a 245lbs. Lewis or Klitschko. Sorry, but no chance for Jones jr., and he would´ve been a dominant HW champ with that weight and skills in the 20, 30es....
     
  11. dave

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    he could beat all of them and also lose to them...he is very good and in the last couple of years he has been unbeatble
     
  12. Orang-Utan Jim

    Orang-Utan Jim Member Full Member

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    Mate, there is no fighter who is unbeatable. Klitschko right now is hard to beat and he would be hard to beat for any HW in history, but he is never ever unbeatable.
     
  13. box03

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    Even though its only 3 rounds more, but the better conditioned athletes have a bettter chance to prevail. I would put money down that Hopkins would of beat maybe even knocked Taylor out in there first fight if there were 3 more rounds, generally the bigger you are the stronger you are, but it also true with more size comes less speed and possible stamina issues. I dont see Wlad fairing well in 70s or the 90s, his chin would be seriously checked by guys like Bowe, Foreman, and Holyfield, this guys not only had good chins but had great pop to there punches.
     
  14. Orang-Utan Jim

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    Yep, Klitschko would´ve been chinchecked more often than nowadays. And that would be the issue why you would give Foreman and Holmes and maybe Bowe and Liston (not compulsory) the edge over Klitschko. But on the other hand I wouldn´t call Klitschko a real underdog vs. these fighters. His punch is good enough to KO anybody out there, so his opponent always gets chinchecked too. Hell that would be awesome fights....
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    We are exactly the same, biologically, as we were fifty years ago. Making better televisions and beating people up are not the same thing.