What All Time Greats do you think Wlad Klitschko would beat?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Of course, though Byrd was a lightheavyweight rather than a true heavyweight. He wouldn't have needed it as much if he started out at 200 lbs. And isn't it equally logical to assume that guys like Ali and Liston would not be dieting as much if they went against heavyweights closer to their own size?

    My position is this--extra weight helps, but not as much as many on here are saying. After 200 lbs., it still helps, but it helps less and less as you pass that barrier. There's no real difference between a 220 lb. man's power and a 240 lb. man's power if they are both "punchers".

    Guys like Bonavena aren't quite on the same level as Wlad or Peter when it comes to punching power, but they still pack a heck of a punch. And because they're smaller, they're also faster and more coordinated, which helps to offset any power loss from smaller size.
     
  2. Sakura

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    These guy's don't are even close same level than Klitchkos or Lewis are/were...tell me, who cruiser can win wladimir?
     
  3. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think david haye can beat wlad, and the wlad/vitali are not anywhere near the level of lennox lewis.
     
  4. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Modern cruiserweights? Haye and a prime Mormeck could. Since Mormeck is no longer in his prime, and Haye is untested, we may have to wait a little while before my thoughts can be confirmed.

    A 190 lb. Holyfield could do it as well.
     
  5. box03

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    Wlad hit the canvas what 11 times in his career been knocked out 3 times, and hes what 31 or 32. Lewis was knocked out 2 times in his career was down less than half of Wlads number. Louis was knocked out 2 times in his career and the 2nd one came against Marciano well past his prime when he was close too 40. Im far from gay Decker unlike your favorite boxer Wlad, Im sure you have that picture they did for BOSS of Wlad and his brother playing with each other naked.:lol:
     
  6. Sakura

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    Really. injured vitaly give old Lewis quite good fight..don't you think so?

    Wlad was always better boxer..
     
  7. box03

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    I couldve of said it any better myself, Wlads chin is his biggest weakness and would be easily exposed by an ATG like Marciano or Dempsey.:good
     
  8. Sakura

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  9. Decker

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    OMG :shock: CT, Terrell was spindly compared to K bros ! Earnie at 6'6" weighed in the low 200s in his prime. I'm surprised at you. Time for a drink and a nap. :D

    Well, we'll just have to agree on a mild disagreement here. I think all 3 current HWs noted above would beat Ringo more often than not. Btw, I'm not "dissing" Oscar or Joe F (similar sized HWs) when I discuss their fights. The good SHWs of today would have too much fire power for the smaller HWs of yester year.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    This is the result of different training methods. He was 6'6" 210, the Klitschkos are 6'7" and 240/250. In both cases, they're about the same weight as the "big" heavyweights of their respective eras like Peter.

    I never denied that heavyweights are a little bigger today. It's inevitable, given the popularity of weight training and the 12 round distance rather than 15. But yesteryear's heavies aren't much shorter, just less weight-trained.

    You'll agree that Valuev is an anomaly in any era due to the gigantism?

    Well, Ringo was pretty successful against fighters the same size as those listed above (he was himself about the same size), and he looks pretty good on film, especially compared to Ibragimov.

    Leaving the Klitschkos and Valuev aside for a moment...Why would Ibragimov/Chagaev/Valuev win?
     
  11. cross_trainer

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  12. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, so what. And Valuev has a better looking record than the both of them, I guess that makes him better than the both of them right.:rofl
     
  13. Decker

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    Well I won't mention that I have a close relative who's a psychiatrist :lol: But who needs to ask him about your posts. Seriously, and you're not the only one here with the frequent homo refs, many would infer that you just might be. Well, you might be 100% straight - like me.
    And no I don't have or even look at pix of the K bros nude*, but you certainly have !:bananamaniac

    * Except when ESB macho men post them here :tong
     
  14. Sakura

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    So what? That guy has been tittle fights many times to..and his career still continue
     
  15. rydersonthestorm

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    Vitali gave a lennox lewis that had fought one before in the previous 26 months and was about to retire, if he fought lewis a few years before i am not sure if the fight would have been as close. Also wlad has fought much poorer opponents to lewis so comparing there records of wins and loses is stupid.