There were people saying Berto could beat Floyd & Algieri could beat Pacquiao. Just because stupid people are the most vocal, it doesn't mean you need to listen to them :hey
Martin is terrible, Grant was just a big, big hitting muscle man with a shaky mandible, just like somebody we know.:think
I think Joshua is always going to be a bit mechanical, he's too upright, doesn't transition very well & doesn't have great variety in rhythm or shot selection.