What Are British Fighters Lacking Compared to Our Foreign Friends????

the problem im getting from this tread is people saying we don't have/havent had many world class boxers,we have,**** loads over the years.
just becouse the old usa churn out endless boxers,put it into % per population,it would be ****,how many come and go,are poor world champs,**** loads,how many are elite,a few over the years maybe, not **** loads.
how many fight out of USA,few and far between,they fight each other in there own comfort zone,
personly i think you give us brits a bit of a pounding,for no reason,say we made great britain the size of USA,we would kick some serious ass with the talent that is coming out now,and has come out before,leave us alone:bart

the am boxing gyms are busting at the seams,the pro ranks have talent up and coming,who are good enough win a version of a world title,just like the yanks,just becouse warren aint got em all,them feeding them euro bums,dont mean there ****,:deal

 

Amercian boxing gyms have good boxing fundamentals, like working behind the jab, and basic boxing moves which they drill into fighters from a young age.

Our boxing gyms focus on 'Go on son, knock him out' :yep

 

great point at school were told to try, not to win. Also they do alot of keep fit instead of sports the only sports we done is Swimming, Football, Basketball, Badminton, Hockey and that was because i chose to do extra PE. Howevere im lucky as one of the teachers is into martial arts so he helps me out with training at lunch time etc..

Also i think theres too many obese people.

 

the amateurs we have produced in the last few years seem to have improved technically. i remember watching an england vs usa amateur show a couple of years back, and the english fighters seemed to have better technique than the US fighters.

 

top thread by the way - some good interesting posts in here

 

This is not a recent phenomenon though is it? I mean when have British fighters EVER been able to compete against the very best in the world.
Thinking of the best fighters of the past 20 years or so, in the 90s Eubank, Benn and Watson, whilst great domestic viewing would not have stood much chance against a Toney or a Jones Jr. and maybe not even a Nunn; Hamed as has been well discussed fell well short of beating the very best in his weight class; even Calzaghe was really only as dominant as he was by virtue of being in weak division full of European fighters.
Even Lennox Lewis' legacy can arguably be questioned as to whether it was genuinely great, rather then just good.

 

ill give you a list of British fighters who are ATG

Jimmy Wilde
Benny Lynch
Jackie Kid Berg
Ted Kid Lewis
Lennox Lewis
Ken Buchanan
Jackie Paterson
Joe Calzaghe
Howard Winstone
Jim Driscoll
Freddie Walsh
you want me to go on?

 

the boxing scene aint big here like it used to be though. In the days id say british fighters were technically as good as any other fighter. Look at Ken Buchanan one of the best ring generals i have ever seen or Benny Lynch possibly the best flyweight in a H2H scenario rankings.

Its the fact boxing isnt as big and that means less potential is coming through the ranks and in turn less trainers.

Also you mentioned british fighters arnt using there skills to win, theres always been fighters like that throuhgout history

 

It starts right at the bottom as far as i'am concerned, sadly the majority of ABC's are run by well meaning people/trainers, but who just won't to anyone except themselves too be involved & run their local clubs as personel fiefdoms too be defended at all cost from the encrouchment of anything too do with progress i.e we have a former Lonsdale belt holder & former WBO world title challenger who has just moved too the area & much too my absolute disgust has been totally BLANKED & services not required, UN ****IN BELIEVABLE, the jealous little pricks who are the resident trainers obviously feel that THEIR TURF is being invaded, pathetic is'nt it, i was so embarrased & believe me i'am not one 2 be stuck for words but this really shut me up with shock for all of 5 seconds:twisted:

THERE LIE'S ONE OF YER MAJOR PROBLEMS & it dos'nt help with the amatuer set up, i've always been of the mind that the only diff between amatuer boxing & pro should be the Vest & PAY. DEFEND YER SELF AT ALL TIMES & HIT & DON'T GET HIT. But when young kids are denied the the free benifits of coaching mental & physical from someone who has scaled mt olympus at a national level then the rot starts at the bottom i'am afraid too say:verysad

 

Fair list there, though i suppose when I said "EVER" I meant our lifetimes. We have to go pretty far back Calzaghe and Lewis aside and even their greatness can be questioned.