What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

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  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    So we have a lot in common then!
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldnt be suprised if you did, I thought Mayweather would win but was going to have to be on his bike against Gatti, when you look at both their fights against Manfredy you can see a different class, although some people were saying Gatti was drained for that 1 dont know if he was

    I predicted Pacquaio would become top3 P4P after the first Morales fight, everyone said I was mad and no chance at the time
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I was more concerned as a fan of Hatton than Cotto, as Hatton brought allot more intensity/workrate/footspeed and he looked pretty brutal against Castillo and unstoppable against Tyszu, obviously wasnt looking as hot against Collazo
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Did you think he was struggling with Gatti to :lol:
     
  5. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    At the end of the day, these discussions cannot really be settled until Floyd has finished his career.

    A fight with Pac would sort out Floyds standing once and for all IMO, really hope it comes off.

    I mean, Mosley is hardly going into this fight being given much of a chance. Hasn't fought in ages (by the time he will have fought Floyd, Pac would've had three fights) is getting on, and stylistically is at a major disadvantage against Floyd due to Floyd footspeed/footwork.

    He can pot shot all night against Shane. Just hope Brother Nazim can come up with a gameplan(s) to make things a bit more interesting on the night, as I've come to the conclusion Floyd will coast this one.
     
  6. bodhi

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    I never disputed that but everybody also knew DLH was already past it and only a part-time-big-money-fights-fighter.
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    Floyds will have had 1 fight in 2 1/2 years, Mosley will have had 2 in that time. Mosleys past prime at 38, but remained not too far removed from prime, Mayweather is also past prime at 33 himself but probably not as much, although hes clearly slipped/slowed from his 130-140lb best
     
  8. teeto

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    I think the win is underrated to some degree now though, it's totally written off as a complete nothing and it is not quite that.
     
  9. bodhi

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    Nah, imo it's the only big win of Mayweather above 135. All others of his Top5 wins I think were at 130/135.
     
  10. teeto

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    Yeah that's probably without saying though. Depending on how one would rank the Judah win in comparison to say Chavez or Carlos Hernandez etc. I was just commenting solely on how the De La Hoya win is written off as basically a nothing win. He had seen better days, but that win is better than suggested by what seems to be the masses, in my opinion anyway.
     
  11. Vanboxingfan

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    I'm not sure why but I alway equate the fight between Gatti and Mayweather along the lines of Lewis - Tyson, in that the general public tend to over rate the name fighter (ie Tyson, Gatti) but those who watch boxing on a regular basis knew that (a) Tyson was way over the hill and that (b) Gatti wasn't in Mayweather's league.

    For me I wish Mayweather had fought better comp. Even if he wins against Mosely, this isn't the prime version of Mosely, and if he wins against Pac, his size advantage would likely help. I wish he could have gone down the path Duran did, when he fought much bigger guys and win or lose he gave them all hell (except Hearns of course). At least then you know when you reached a wall. There's a saying in boxing if you haven't lost, you haven't fought to your true potential. But at least now Mayweathers starting to make decent fights and the fight with Mosely should be good. If Mayweather wins, I hope he has to gut out a win, and is forced to actually fight. That I would enjoy seeing and it would certainly help his legacy.
     
  12. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Floyd did less damage to Marquez than Diaz. He is not a puncher at 147.

    His defence is good, but it isn't educated enough to beat ATG opposition. He can avoid one or two punches, but has trouble with speed and combination punching. It's a very bad habit to let an opponent attack you on the ropes at will. Better defensive fighters would use range control and head movement as a primary defence mechanism and use it to set up countering opportunities, rather than simply running at breakneck speed to the ropes and trying deflect a whole load of shots until your opponent gives up as a matter of course. It's like Arthur Abraham's defence in a way: good against not-so-great opposition who can't work out how to find the openings, but against great, intelligent fighters it's a big weakness.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    That is his style. I would not say little power is a problem for Mayweather. He can punch his weight.

    We won't know if Mayweather's style and tendencies is a weakness until another fighter forces Mayweather to fight on those terms.

    I do not think Mayweather has a glass jaw like Roy Jones.
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Mayweather is close to a complete boxer, the obvious thing that stands out is his reluctance to throw combinations but he CAN throw them when necessary so its more his choice to throw one punch at a time than throw combinations rather than a weakness or inability.

    His leaning on the ropes using the shoulder roll defence can be a work of art to watch at times but against a Mosely or Pacquiao - guys that can throw fast, hard, accurate shots, it could get him in trouble... but its also clear than FMJ is extremely smart when in the ring, he usually knows what he`s up against & adapts the correct methods to neutralize his opponents strengths.
    Floyd has good defence in ring centre too by using his feet, side to side etc & Id imagine he`d employ that sort of D vs a Pac or SSM while using his superior timing to pot shot them to ****.

    All in all, he`s not perfect but he`s the best of this era & thats really the best you can expect from any fighter.
     
  15. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Whatever gives you that idea Im not sure because nobody in his own era has cracked it enough to to any damage whatsoever to him.

    Mayweather will give any fighter a tough time from 130-140, while Id favour Armstrong, Duran & Chavez over him, there are not too many others Id be confident of picking over him.... not saying he beats everyone at those weights except those 3 but its just that I think he has a real solid shot.