What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

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  1. ryanm8655

    ryanm8655 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know this may sound a little silly but does anyone think hypothetically a welterweight version of Joe Calzaghe would give floyd problems?

    Immense volume and speed, good chin and ring intelligence.
     
  2. teeto

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    Well if that fighter could be a reality, then yes, of course. Calzaghe is one i rate highly head to head. But i must say on the contrary, i scored Hopkins as a winner over him, by one point. What Hopkins did there was slow down the pace of Calzaghe's fight, something i thought was impossible and was pretty amazed to see unfold before my eyes, you'd have to say that Mayweather is very good at doing this also. Although it's speculation, because Mayweather has never been in with a guy with tremendous variation.
     
  3. bodhi

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    I agree. Calzaghe h2h would be a tough fight for many atgs at 175 and for everyone at 168. I also had Hopkins ahead by one point, basically the knockdown winning him the fight. I won't complain about people who think Calzaghe won. IMO fights like these should be no decision fights, neither deserved to be the winner.
     
  4. teeto

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    Yeah i agree on it being close on the cards, but i do think that whoever you judge it for does deserve to be called the winner though, in this case for me and you Hopkins. I get what you mean though, hardly Morales-Barrera 1. I thought Hopkins boxed very well early though tbh.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

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    Wow you made a post I agree with :nut
     
  6. bodhi

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    Which means you slowly become a mentally sane human being :D
     
  7. horst

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    Nonsense. :good
     
  8. horst

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    Chavez eats Floyd from 130 to 140.
     
  9. horst

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    I'll elaborate since I didn't have time to do so yesterday:

    Obviously there's no such thing as a complete boxer, but to say someone is close to being complete must mean they have proven to be highly proficient in very different fights against very high calibre opposition.

    Ray Leonard fought in the pocket for 15 rounds against one of the greatest swarmers in history, Roberto Duran, and only lost by a few points. He proved his infighting abilities, chin, toughness, heart, will and stamina.

    Ray Leonard then showed his offensive arsenal when he smashed Tommy Hearns. Hearns was one of the most fearsome welterweights in history, and Ray overcame physical disadvantages to get to Tommy, and find the right punches, land them, and end the fight. Wonderful combination punching.

    Ray Leonard showed he could move and box as well, against Duran in the rematch and against Hagler. In the Duran rematch, he was quick and elusive. In the Hagler fight, he showed great movement, fast hands, but also tactical discipline and toughness again. In the Benitez fight, he showed great all-round skills.


    THAT is proof of being close to the complete boxer.

    Realizing you couldn't convincingly beat Jose Luis Castillo in the 1st fight by engaging him, so choosing to run the clock down in the rematch and stink the place out instead is NOT.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    No he ain't.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Agreed.

    Floyds skillset looks astonishing.

    But I wonder how astonishing it would look against a great offensive fighter. Mosley won't prove it, he's too slow of foot to capitalise IMO.

    Floyd=Damn good. Amazing at times, breathtaking skills.

    But his resume just not justify a top ranking, in this era IMO, and alltime he doesn't touch my top 60.



    BILL: Call me a hater if you will, but I feel I'm being a realist.
     
  12. horst

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    You think the exact same as me. He does indeed have some lovely skills, but I've yet to see them proven effective in a big fight with a great opponent. I thought he looked shite vs his two best opponents so far (JLC and Oscar). His resume is weak, because he has been cherrypicking for about 8 years. He has it all to prove IMO. We will know more after May 1st. I expect him to win, but I'm hoping for a great performance and not the usual running the clock down refusing to engage over-cautious bollocks.
     
  13. Flea Man

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    Either way, Mosley is not the kinda opponent that would solidify greatness IMO.

    If that were the case than I'd rank Cotto over Floyd:lol:
     
  14. teeto

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    Mayweather didn't look **** against Oscar. What's he supposed to do, win every second of every round?
     
  15. Flea Man

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    Regardless, I don't think he was mind blowing enough to justify the lofty rankings people give him on here.