What are Floyd Mayweather Jr. weekness? or Why I think he dose very well H2H.

Pure bull****, like only you can come up with. atsch

Oscar has NOT always added 10-15lbs between weigh-in and fightnight, that is nonsense. Nor was he ever 160 when he weighed in at 147. I know for a fact he was 153 to Mosley's 155 when he fought Sugar Shane at welter.

I'll reiterate then explain for you: Oscar wasn't even 160 on fightnight when he fought at middle. Don't let the weight class he was fighting in fool you. Look at it this way - when Pac was fighting at 130, he was regularly around 145 on fightnight. Now that's he's fighting at 147, he's weighing in around 145 and only going up to 147-148 on fightnight. He was gaining 15lbs from sfw, but that doesn't mean he can gain another 15lbs when he weighs in at 145. Oscar was the same. Whether he fought at 147, 154, or 160, on fightnight he was between 153 and 158 or 159. He, like Pac, has a natural weight ceiling that his body didn't allow him to exceed no matter what the division was.

Oscar weighed in at 155 for his mw fight with Hopkins. You're telling me he weighed in significantly under the limit, then rehydrated to 165-170lbs on the night? Complete and utter bull****, as usual. Go watch Mosley-Oscar 1 and get back to me :good

So 'Money' was 148, and you said he was giving away 15-20lbs, so that would make Oscar 163-168 after weighing in at 154?? Fail.

Of course he isn't as good as he was, but that's a different thing from being past-prime, which you implied he now was. He isn't. Floyd has passed his physical prime at his best weight, but he shows absolutely no signs of slipping whatsoever. You could argue that Hatton was his most complete performance (I think it's a brilliant performance), and that came on the back of the De La Hoya fight. Floyd has changed and became a little less effective in my view since his 130 days, but that's standard evolution in a fighter. It's like saying Pernell Whitaker was past-prime when he beat McGirt and (imo) Chavez at welter at the age of 29, or like saying Oscar De La Hoya was past-prime when he stopped Fernando Vargas then (imo) outfought Shane Mosley at lightmiddle when he was 29-30. Like Floyd, both Pea and Oscar had passed their physical primes and their best weights by then, but they weren't showing any real signs of decline that would justify them being labelled 'past-prime', they were still at the top of their game by then, just like Floyd is now. (both Pea and Oscar declined shortly after these periods, I wonder if Floyd will too?)

One of the few things I really admire about Floyd Mayweather is the longevity of his prime. Longevity is a quality I really really rate and admire in a fighter, I think it's of crucial importance in all-time rankings. Floyd has had a really long prime period without any real sign of decline. He has changed sure, but it's more of an evolution than a decline. He is a different fighter now, but still a very effective one. He was brilliant vs Hernandez in 1998, he was brilliant against Hatton in 2007, and I expect he will produce a similar standard vs Mosley in 2010. Not many fighters of this age are still producing prime performances without a period of decline 12 years after they first won a world title. That may be attributed to Floyd not fighting that often, it may be attributed to years of soft opposition, but it's still a very impressive feat in my book.

 

The bottom line is Floyd's never been a "big" physical welterweight and hes fought accordingly at the higher weights. Had the division been as stacked with paydays at junior welter Im sure Floyd would have stayed there. Things may be a bit different now that he has filled out a little more.

 

That is sickening.

 

fail on your post homie...oscar weighed 165 on fight night with floyd..floyd weighted 150...do the math n shhhhhh

 

Delahoya was over 160 in his Chavez rematch

 

Weights werent taken to my knowledge, Floyd dropped below 150 after the weigh in

 

Lots of fighters add loads of weight after dehydrating too much. Hatton weighed 145 against Mayweather and was 155+ in the ring, Williams was 145 against Margorito and gained weight, lots of fighters do it. If you are used to cutting out food/water and taking diurtetics to make weight you follow the routine

Hopkins himself dehydrated to 156 before getting into the ring at 172

BTW the Hopkins fight was at a 157 catch weight

Given that delahoya looked to be bigger than he'd ever been in the ring, isnt it likely hes at the mid 160s?

 

1. You've stated yourself hes past his physical prime, Im not saying hes well past it, just past his best, his hand issues have plagued him worse over the years

2. I think he probably was, certainly by he got to rivera and hurtado before he lost

3. DLH was certainly past his physical best by Vargas, although I do think he was a bit smarter at 154

4. Mayweather above 130 isnt quite the same, for whatever reason he is much more cautious/less aggressive whether its caution, bad hands, lack of stamina I dont know. I cant actually remember him losing many rounds at the weight against the best of opposition outside of the Carlos Hernandez fight where he broke his hand and Chavez grabbed a few

 

No PP, he was not.

 

Oscar was not in the mid 160s when he fought Floyd I know that much, but I do not believe for a second he was there vs B-Hop either. If he could have weighed that much, why would he bother cutting to 155 instead of just weighing in heavier? It doesn't make sense.

 

Depends what kind of shape he was in before he started camp. In the case of Oscar fighting Hopkins, he had to be in top form, especially coming off of looking like a saggy bag in the Sturm fight. Most likely he was in better shape going into that camp as opposed to Sturm, since the fights were fairly close to each other unlike his previous fight with Mosley. He didnt cut weight, just trained down naturally, which is the best way to do it anyway.