What Are Floyd Mayweather Jr's Weaknesses?

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  1. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    :lol: I was actually about to post that clip to disprove you. It seemed if there was a punch he seemed content to throw, it was the left jab that you just said he hardly ever threw. He seemed fine throwing it there. He was doing his usual Floyd thing until the end of the round when Castillo got in on him and worked him.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    Boxing technique has not evolved since the 40's in reality. The only thing that has changed about the sport is the lack of interest nowadays, as it barely registers with the mainstream nowadays, wheras it used to be the #1 sport along with baseball. Back in the day, being a boxer was what kids aspired to be. Nowadays with the lack of interest and the best athletes going to other sports like football and basketball, boxing is left in the dust.

    All sports have peaks and valleys, we need to learn to except that, unless you guys actually think we'll have 8 foot tall HW's with 3 arms in the future. Boxing peaked from about the 40's to the 80's in terms of the overall level of the sport, and started to slide by the 90's, and is now at the low point it is today. HW's are the only division to have seen any major changes over the past 50 years or so, given that the fighters there are bigger, but definitely not more skilled.

    The proof is in the tape. I've done comparisons many, many times. I can easily post footage of a fighter from 40-50 years ago and compare him favorably over an elite fighter of today. Now, of course there will always be top fighters from every era and guys that would compete well with any(Floyd being one), but don't make the mistake of thinking today's fighters are overall better than past ones, because not only is it generalizing, it's downright inaccurate as far as I'm concerned.

    The only real advantage modern fighters have are in areas like nutrition.
     
  3. Danny_Rand

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    He lands a few at the beginning of the round, but they dont have the zip his jab usually has, and towards the end of the round he stops throwing the left completely. When he does throw, he's missing or they arent landing with any authority. Infact instead of warding Castillo off with it, he simply resorts to pushing Castillo away when he gets close. Castillo even beats Mayweather to the punch a few times. This doesnt happen if Floyd is healthy, as shown in the second fight. Look how little power is in his leaping left. One of his best punches. The same punch that dropped corrales.
     
  4. mexican legend

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    Floyds weakness is that he is too exciting.I can't recall how many fights of the year he produced.
     
  5. walk with me

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    fighters nowadays have probably have benefits in

    training techniques
    technological training advantages
    trainer ( from a health point of view)

    this is a fact though... life evolves haha

    nobody in the history of the nba could jump like lebron
    nobody in the history of football was like devin hestor
    i dont watch baseball but im sure there some freaks in baseball
    same as hocky

    its a natural progression... im not saying nowadays fighters are waaay better

    but people talk about yesterdays fighters like they are invinceable forces
     
  6. Sweet Pea

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    In the second bout Floyd fought with a completely defensive fight, disimilar to what he normally does, because he knew the type of fighter Castillo was. If anything Floyd can adapt, I'll give him that. However, his left hand had nothing to do with Castillo slipping his shots and landing his own toward the end of the round, and he was landing clean shots.

    As for the punch you're speaking of, Corrales not only does not have the chin of Castillo, but he's a more incompetent boxer, and a much worse matchup for Floyd given their pressuring abilities. So I don't think the two are comparable in that sense. Corrales simply showed no ability to cut off the ring whatsoever. Complete incompetence in that fight from him, though Floyd has to be given credit, as he boxed beautifully as well.
     
  7. Farmboxer

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    Void has diarrhea of the mouth which is bad for his health.
     
  8. AmericanSugar

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    how bout this, both roll with punches. but pernell did it alot more. pernell was a slick south paw who moved left and right all night. although he did use upperbody movement, a majority of shots would end up rolling off his left hand which was glued high on his chin.

    money may is the least squared up fighter i've seen, this leaves a relativley small target. like homeboy said before, floyd uses his entire arms to block and deflect shots. he potshots, and aviods punches.

    yo, u is mad gay.
     
  9. Sweet Pea

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    False. I explained this. I can show footage to compare as well. Technique is the one thing that hasn't improved over time. The advances have been in nutrition and supplements, such as steroids.;)

    True, which will mean certain fighters are more muscular. Hardly a big advantage.

    Definitely NOT. It would seem logical to assume this, but most of the great boxing trainers are long gone my man. Sometimes logic ain't the end all be all.

    We're talking about a sport though, and if you actually are talking about evolution in that sense, we'd need about 5 million more years to actually see noticable change. Also, you'd probably upset TooPretty.:yep

    Boxing(Queensbury Rules) has been around longer than any of those sports, and most of them took a much longer time catching on, such as in the pro ranks than boxing.

    Wilt Chamberlain peaked in the 60's and basketball still hasn't seen a more impressive physical specimen given his combination of size, strength, and athleticism.

    Sports peak. Guys today might be better athletes, but they aren't better players than the likes of Chamberlain, Erving, Bird, Johnson, Jordan, etc. Same with boxing, and as has been mentioned, these sports have progressed over time, whereas boxing has floundered.

    I think people discount old timers more often actually, as they bring up the same arguments you bring up time and time again. Either way, I hear your point, but it just doesn't apply to a combat sport like boxing which relies so much more on technique and what is inside the fighter than any supplementary additions.
     
  10. elTerrible

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    He is pretty well rounded.

    He doesnt have great power but good enough. His hands are probably his biggest physical problem.


    He is not invincible. But I dont see anyone today beating him. Not Cotto or anyone else at 147 right now.

    The DLH fight was very close. A younger DLH at 147 back in the day could have very likely decisioned PBF if those two versions met. A younger mosely at 135 or 147 could also have done so. Trinidad at 147 was a monster as well and would be a big fight. He wasnt as skilled a boxer but he was a beast at 147 and he used to have decent speed before he started moving up.


    So looking back, had PBF been only a few years older and gotten to 147 while those guys were there, he probably would have lost to atleast one of them.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

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    Trust me, I've seen a lot more of him than you, and you just seem to be someone who's seen a particular portion of a highlight or something and come to this random conclusion. It doesn't make much sense. Pea's style with his hands held at his chest(left hand slightly higher, but not at his chin) obviously made it easier for him to slip punches rather than roll them, as his head was always open.

    Yes, the fact that he deflects shots shows that I am correct. Pea slips and altogether avoids punches with head and upper-body movement, while Floyd rolls and deflects them off his Philly Shell guard. It's common sense.

    :good
     
  12. Danny_Rand

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    I thought you said this was the same Mayweather? I see a Mayweather with his usual gameplan from 130-135. Bouncing around, looking for places to counter, then settling in the middle of the ring and outboxing his opponent. About the same thing he did in the 2nd fight. Except, this is clearly a Mayweather below his top level. He got driven into the ropes without a fight, didnt throw punches on the inside, but decided to simply try and push Castillo away.

    Sorry this is either a hurt Mayweather or a Mayweather clearly not on top of his game, which is extremely rare. Either way I dont think its a serious indicator of Mayweathers weaknesses if this isnt a class Mayweather in the ring.
     
  13. Grinder

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    He has a one-shot attack at higher weights.
     
  14. AmericanSugar

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    who took more punches? as much as i love sweet pea (and you;)) he took more punches than floyd did in their careers. floyd wins defensively:happy
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    It's not that simple at all. Pernell was a more offensive fighter who faced better competition, he's bound to be hit more. Roberto Duran had some of the best head movement and defense of all time and he got hit a lot. Your style has to be taken into account.