What Are Floyd Mayweather Jr's Weaknesses?

No, not AT ALL.

Pernell was faded by then, clearly. Not to mention that Pernell's best weight was EASILLY lightweight, the fact that he almost lost to Riveria a few fights before, and the whole "coke head" thing beginning... You'll see that the Pernell that fought Oscar was not the best Pernell BY A LONG SHOT...

STILL,

If you watch that fight, chances are you'll still give the win to PERNELL...

Pernell's first REAL blemish on his record was Felix Trinidad... After a lay-off, in his mid-thirties, and after he was a straight up coke head. A small lightweight fighting at welterweight against a weight-drained welterweight who shoulda been fighting at light-middleweight years before.

 

Pernell was well past his prime by that point, as you could easily tell when looking his record up. Not to mention it is a very controversial fight which most have Pernell winning. I had Pernell winning as clearly as a prime Floyd beat an old Oscar. Different being, this was a faded Pernell beating a prime Oscar. Check the threads, every one we've done on this matchup has ended with Pernell winning the polls comfortably.

He was really past his prime by the Vasquez fight at 154, and was never the same after coming back down to WW. Not to mention those were the years when he became less motivated and started using coke(though he may have done it prior as well). The Oscar fight was the last one he was able to truly get up for.

The true prime Pernell was at LW. Around the late 80's and early 90's you will see the man at his peak. Watch the Haugen fight, there is a good highlight on Youtube.

 

Study this, don't just watch it. Watch his counter-punching ability. See how few times he gets tagged clean in the fight. Watch his jab, his ability to keep the fight at his pace. And especially, watch his inside fighting ability and accuracy, shows you the definition of a complete boxer, only lacking in power. He was a different type of stylist than Floyd. He relied on his ability to time and see things ahead of time, which made him a much smoother fighter on film. He relied on his ring sense to work his reflexes rather than fast twitch muscle fibers as Floyd uses more.

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Watch the 1st Castillo fight for a good example. Castillo didn't even have great defense, he just applied the pressure effectively and fought Floyd on the inside very well, turning it into his fight in the second half, though Floyd outboxed him early on. A guy like Chavez would do it much more effectively IMO.

The scorecards were ridiculous. Even the people that actually did score the fight for Oscar have it much closer than that. Even the announcers were talking those scorecards down, as the judges didn't give Pea a single round in the second half of the fight. Very fishy stuff.

I would say Pernell is not only at least as good as Floyd in most of Floyd's best areas, I'd say he had more to his game as well, and was a stylistic nightmare for Floyd, posessing a great jab, workrate, and the southpaw stance to trouble Floyd along with his great speed, reflexes, timing, accuracy, defense, etc.

 

The fact that Oscar controlled the fight with his jab and was able to get Mayweather to the ropes using the jab is a myth. To anyone's whos actually watched the fight more then a few times its obvious that Oscar did not utilize his jab consistently at any point in the fight and Mayweather actually outjabbed Oscar landing 60 some jabs to Oscars 40. Oscar only landed 122 punches the entire fight. Emmanuel Steward at one point even comments during the 5th round that Oscar is not using his jab enough, and in the center of the ring it was Floyd peppering Oscar with Jabs. TommyVercettiX you really dont know what you are talking about in this instance, my belief is that you've also been swayed by the myth without actually watching the fight. Floyd threw 270 some jabs, Oscar threw 246. So the myth that Oscar somehow lost the fight because Oscar somehow got tired and stopped throwing his jab, is just that a myth. He lost because he was outboxed in the middle of the ring and couldnt penetrate Floyds defense when he got Floyd against the ropes, which wasnt as often as some insist.


As per the OP's question. I think Floyd's weaknesses are purely physical. Brittle hands, small frame which would hinder him against the bigger Welters. But his skills are clearly not hurt by the jump in weight. His compubox statistics remain as sharp as ever. Nobody lands as high a percentage and gets hit as less as Floyd. Not even Pernell or Roy had these kinds of statistics.


A stylistic nightmare for Floyd would be a big welter with reach, similar speed, greater strength, and boxing ability. Like a Sugar ray Leonard or a Thomas Hearns. Today I dont see anyone threatening him. And as you can see, anyone who has tried to pressure Floyd relentlessly throughout his career usually ends in a knockout. Castillo 1 would be a good indicator of how to beat Floyd if you have blinders on to the fact Floyd was injured and a healthy Floyd dominated the fight the 2nd time around.

 

The Oscar-Whitaker fight was ridiculous in terms of the scorecards. Sweet Pea would Oscar look foolish with an amazing defensive display, but because Oscar threw more and mounted a better attack he got the decision.

 

All that being said, Floyd would of did the same thing to this guy. It is hard to fight a southpaw. If you are a southpaw with skill you will kick ass. If you are southpaw with extreme skill you will barely lose. Look at Calzaghe and current Pac....Pac still makes many mistakes but fights some of the best fighters out there and he still wins though the other guys are just plain better at about everything except power. Pernell is a bad example to compare Floyd too.

 

floyds weakness is his size. he is complete except for his size and power. floyd is better defensivley than pernell. floyd just doesn't get hit. pernell alot of the times, rolled with punches. 2 defensive wizards, just slightly different.

 

Floyd would beat Haugen pretty handily as well yes, but Haugen was still a better opponent than someone like Gatti, N'Dou, Bruseles, etc. He split wins with the likes of Hector Camacho in "92, Vinny Paz at LW, and stopped a faded Ray Mancini. Not a bad boxer himself, known for being a good counter-puncher as well, though he was completely outclassed by Pea in that regard. Would've outboxed the fighters I mentioned above, and most of Floyd's 130-140 opposition outside of a few fighters.

 

Floyd is the one who rolls with the punches, as he is the one who uses the Philly Shell, which involves the shoulder roll style, and rolling or deflecting punches. Pernell was the one who relied on upper-body movement and avoiding contact altogether.

In other words, you have it ass backwards.:good

 

His fight against Roger Mayweather is on Youtube. You can check that out. Pretty good scrap. Pea even gets dropped,.

 

Take into account the fact that Floyd is less offensive at higher weights than Pernell. When Pernell did get hit, he'd get hit more cleanly and would be off balance at times due to the angles he'd dodge punches at, which is why he has more KD's against him, though he was rarely hurt.

Pea was the more well rounded boxer IMO, with the more versatile defense.