Wilder has never won a robbery before. If Fury really does put a boxing clinic on Wilder he'll get the decision considering it would make the rematch an easy sale. Also, I can't think of anybody that was ever killing Wilder on the cards in the first place. Ortiz took a few early rounds, but got knocked down in the 5th and had no answer for the straight right. You can't keep getting hit with the same shot and expect to win on the cards.
Wilder has never been the beneficiary of a robbery due to KO wins, I'm not disputing that. I'm saying at the point of the KO's some of his cards were shady as hell. One of the reasons I don't rate him is he made Szpilka look like a heavyweight SRL at times and was yet somehow up on the cards at the point of the KO.
He's going to get stopped in dominant fashion. It won't matter. I tend to think it would be more on the level than Wilder vs. average bum. Many times cross promotion with a marquee fight, two "A-sides" so to speak, are among the legitimately scored. Especially if/since Wilder has a rematch clause.
I did think someone would post this and if he wins by KO then obviously its a non issue but recent fights and previous Wilder scorecards have Fury especially up against it.
But that's the thing. They wouldn't have SEEN it that way beforehand. They were hyping Ortiz up as this 'beast' who rips through everybody with power shots. He is a great boxer, but that's not how they viewed him in the build up and therefore that wasn't what they were looking for. They would have been going into this fight thinking 'we're going to see a war here'. Therefore they looked for power shots. Wilder didn't throw much but when he did land it was eye-catching. That's what mattered because that's what they were looking for. Judges shouldn't do things like this, but it's the reality. What they see beforehand influences how they judge.
I stopped thinking Ortiz was a beast who 'ripped through everybody' after seeing him fight post the Jennings KO.
I think Fury can/will win a decision, why wouldn't he be able to win a decision? Plenty of foreign fighters win decisions in the US, so the implication that he can't/won't is off base.
Id like to think Fury won't leave much doubt, and it will be fair enough. Of the 3 Wilder fights that people cite to as proof of robbery, the Spilzka and Ortiz scores were fair, imo. I think they were within a round of my score and the rounds were closer than Wilder haters like to say. The only outrageous one was the Washington fight, where I had Wilder definitively losing every round until the second to last round, and somehow the cards had him up. Fury has more clout than Washington though. So did GGG and Kovalev, but I think Fury will win his rounds more cleanly than them.
Since when did California turn into Germany? Fury will be fine here. You guys act like nobody gets a fair shake here. At least the ref won't stop the fight the second the home town guy lands a half way decent shot like in the UK.
Depends on who the judges are. These days they flip 7-5 to draw or a 5-7 loss. To avoid a robbery, Fury will need to win 8-4 and win the final round cleanly. But Fury is a drug cheat, off the drugs, I wonder how good he is.
Fury's probably screwed on the cards too. I remember Washington virtually whitewashed Wilder up to the KO and iirc the judges had Wilder ahead