What are some boxing myths that can be broken with FACTS?

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  1. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh that's just awful :roll: only Bantamweight to heavyweight!!?? :roll:
    Take him out of the record books!! :lol:
    Carp was an amazing fighter - amongst others he beat :

    Charles Ledoux - Future World Bantamweight Champ - by stoppage
    Paul Til - French Lightweight Champ - Decision
    Robert Eustache - French Welterweight Champ - by stoppage
    Young Joseph - British & European Welterweight Champ - by stoppage
    Jim Sullivan - for the vacant European Middleweight Title - by KO
    Bandsman Rice - European LightHeavyweight Champ - by KO
    Marcel Moreau -World Middleweight Challenger vs Ketchel - by stoppage
    Billy Wells - For European Heavyweight Title Wells was also British and Empire Heavyweight Champion - by KO twice
    Albert Lurie - French Heavyweight Champ - by KO
    Jeff Smith - World Middleweight Title Claimant - by Decision
    Pat O'Keefe - World Middleweight Title Claimant - by KO
    Gunboat Smith - 'White' World Heavyweight Title Champion :lol:

    THEN WORLD WAR I TOOK AWAY 5 YEARS FROM HIS CAREER

    Then he went on to beat:

    Joe Beckett - British Heavyweight Champion - by KO
    Battling Levinsky - World LightHeavyweight Champion - by KO
    Ted Kid Lewis - Former World Welterweight Champion - by KO

    Also boxed a No-Decision distance match versus Tommy Gibbons

    Dropped points decisions to Joe Jeanette (a controversial one) and Tommy Loughran (when anchient) and was stopped famously by Jack Dempsey and toward the end of his career versus prime Gene Tunney (who Carp considered he could've beat in his prime)

    Great Fighter Gorgeous Georges
     
  2. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    Myth: Floyd Mayweather Jr. was the first American boxer to beat a Cuban boxer in 20 years.

    I think there's some truth to this, as there were no match ups I know of between American and Cuban boxers in the '80, '84', and '88 Olympics and no Americans I know of beat Cubans in '92 Olympics. Many American amateurs, though, have multiple wins over Cubans outside of Olympic competition.
     
  3. sportofkings

    sportofkings Boxing Junkie banned

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    I find it hard to believe myself but i suppose its possible, some accounts like you said have it as being true. Lol It would have to be a terrible judge that would give Pep a round without throwing a punch, regardless of how good his defense is though.
     
  4. klompton

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    This is an over simplification of what really happened. And Fitzsimmons was a Michigan promoter not a New Jersey promoter.
     
  5. klompton

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    Dig up photos of Ketchel Papke 2 (with Jeffries as ref) and compare them with Pics of Jeffries during the Johnson bout. I can easily believe he lost 100 pounds, or close to it, and frankly I think his transformation is remarkable.

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    Those are decent comparisons but I have a really nice close up of Papke knocking Ketchel through the ropes in their second match and in the background is an extremely fat Jeffries. I dont know how to post my own pics though.
     
  6. klompton

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    I also have a pic of Jefrries, Attell, Coulon, and Wolgast. I was always puzzled because the caption reads that it is Coulon but you only see three people in the photo and Coulon is missing. Then I realized that Jeffries had actually eaten Coulon just before the photo was taken. Its really an amazing snapshot of a little incident in boxing history.
     
  7. Napoleon

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    Myth: Joe Calzaghe is an ATG after combining a record of 46-0, by beating many great fighters in their primes.

    Fact: Joe Calzaghe isn't an ATG after combining a record of 46-0, by beating bums and old men.
     
  8. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MYTH - Ali lay on the ropes and absorbed punishment for 7 and 1/2 rounds before KOing Foreman.

    FACT - Ali was ahead on points when the KO came. You do not get points lying on the ropes absorbing punishment for the whole fight
     
  9. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hard to prove either way, as his weight was not listed during his early bouts. He did box Georges Gloria in his 7th Pro bout and Gloria was a Flyweight, so there is a good chance he did. Gloria fought for the France Flyweight Champion after he fought Carpentier twice, beating him once. By the way, that was his 1st pro bout and his only win in his career, as he ended up with a record of 1-8.
     
  10. Il Duce

    Il Duce Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe Frazier was not the best American Heavyweight to represent the U.S.A in the
    1964 Olympics.

    Ray Leonard was not the favorite to win the Gold Medal at Light Welterweight at the 1976 Olympics.

    Teofilo Stevenson was not the best Communist-bloc Country Heavyweight fighter in 1971/1972/1973 and 1976.
     
  11. hhascup

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    Joe Frazier was not the best American Heavyweight to represent the U.S.A in the 1964 Olympics.
    Toby Gibson was!


    Ray Leonard was not the favorite to win the Gold Medal at Light Welterweight at the 1976 Olympics.
    Andrés Aldama was!


    Teofilo Stevenson was not the best Communist-bloc Country Heavyweight fighter in 1971/1972/1973 and 1976.
    Igor Vysotsky beat Stevenson twice!
     
  12. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I've stood next to him on two occasions. I'm 5-11. He was definitely shorter than me.
     
  13. klompton

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    Toby Gibson was not a HW...

    Im curious what other American HWs represented the USA in the Olympics. Im assuming you mean Mathis since Frazier was his alternate and he did have a better amateur style and the size to make him dangerous. That being said there is no arguing with Joes results.:good
     
  14. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Christ, thank you.

    George was easy game for a fighter with speed and resilience.
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Exactly, which was no myth but a fact ...