What are some of the best rounds you've seen?

A one sided round one of the best rounds of all time? Simple does not wash with me, I'm afraid.

 

I'm sorry you feel that way. Something tells me you're the only one who thinks that.

Pac/Morales round 12 in their first fight is one of the best rounds I've ever seen and it's extremely one sided. Doesn't make it any less beautiful.

 

Speaking of Bowe/Golota I, not to change the subject but MAN Jim Lampley ran like a girl as soon as that brawl broke out.

Larry Merchant and George Foreman stayed there the whole time. Such gangstas.

 

Golota's corner man: I'm not saying Golota didn't hit Riddick low but I think Bowe put on a big act.

 

That one round where I could have sworn Gatti was going to die by Ward in their first fight.

 

atsch That round was not one sided. Morales allowed Pacquao to land more shots, but Morales lands bombs in that round too. Don't believe me? Video doesn't lie.

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Morales landed so many rights and lefts, but Manny landed even more left hands. Great round. NOT one sided.

Just to clarify. The 12th round of Vasquez/Marquez III was ridiculously one sided. Vasquez barely threw a punch, in fact.

The comparison is non-nonsensical.

And just to say, watching that round is beautiful. What a sport. What fighters, both of them.

 

Then how did he win the round?

 

I meant Marquez barely threw anything, my bad.

Still, the 12th round of Morales/Pacquiao I was not one sided in terms of output or landing. Pacquiao just landed more, when they were both finding their target.

Vasquez just tattooed Marquez for 3 mins, and got a knockdown. NOT one of the best rounds of all time, in my opinion. Round 4 of III or round 3 or I and II? Sure, all time great rounds.

 

I was just screewing with you I know what ya meant

Hey if you don't feel that way then I'm sorry. If you don't think it's great then that's up to you man.

I guess...in a sense a compromise would be that that round was one of the all time greatest PERFORMANCES by a fighter. Compromise?

 

Absolutely.

In terms of Vasquez, and only Vasquez, that could go down as one of the greatest rounds in terms of performance, will, and determination. Coming out at the very end to try and avoid the scorecards, going for broke, was beautiful too watch.

But just as when I think of all-time great fights, I only really consider a competitive equation. A few exceptions, perhaps Trinidad/Mayorga and Arguello/Pryor II. Hey, you're entitled to your opinion man, I just have different criteria I suppose.

Thanks for reminding me of Pacquiao/Morales round 12. Watched it several times now. Amazing.

 

Honestly I think that trilogy is better than Barrera/Morales.

 

Although it was one sided you have to put in perspective. First it was an extremely close fight, he was knocked down early in the fight, and when round 12 started he fought his heart out. That to me is beautiful. What I saw in that ring was someone who gave every ounce of his heart, body and soul for the victory.

 

We were just getting along as well.

When I consider Marco Antonio Barrera vs Erik Morales I to be the single greatest fight of all time, every other trilogy will do very well to live up to it. It's true, the second fight between the two was somewhat a let down, but I thought the third fight drew a fantastic compromise between skill and action. I love the third fight, I think it was the rightful winner of FOTY honors in 2004, and tops off one hell of a trilogy.

I think the greatest trilogy of all time is between Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali, and Marco's and Eriks vendetta would be a close second. I think the fact Morales was already showing signs of fading when he took that loss to Raheem, a fighter he would have ran over in his prime, took a little shine off the two remaining fights for me. The second fight was great, but the third was just a total mismatch. Erik had no business making weight, and had no business still fighting. The fight should never have taken place. Credit to Pacquiao though, he did what he had to do.

Nothing compares to seeing prime Barrera and prime Morales share the same ring with both of them having a point to prove. It was breathtaking, and no fight I have seen before and after that one lives up too it. Not even Corrales/Castillo I or Arguello/Pryor I.

In other words, Pacquiao/Morales can't hold Marco and Erik's jockstrap. :good

 

I forgot how big of an MAB fanatic you are

In all honesty they're extremely close. I could watch MAB and EM play checkers and be entertained. Hell those two getting a haircut in the same barbershop would be epic.

I just look at it Pac-Morales 1 as the perfect start of any trilogy. The old war dog against the rising phenom. The phenom puts on a tremendous showing but in the end the old wardog has enough to dig down deep and pull it off in expert fashion.

Pac-Morales II is the usual middle chapter. The balance of power switches from the fading champion to the tremendous young slugger. Pac KOs Morales (something never done before) and sets the stage for a final rematch.

To me the 3rd fight is everything a finale should be. It's the finale. You finally get the ending as Pac overwhelms EM in a brutal slugfest. Morales ever the champion gives it all he's got but time, speed and a blazing inferno is too much for him. Pac is now the king and none shall oppose him. You get a conclusion.

There's way too much contraversy with MAB and Morales' trilogy. It feels like everything is all ass backwards. MAB should've won the first fight, EM should've won the 2nd and the 3rd is pretty dull compared to the first two.

I guess Pac-Morales just flows better to me

 

Has absolutely no relevance to this discussion at all.

I don't think it's close. I don't consider Pacquiao/Morales a great trilogy. Two great fights, and a fight that should not have happened.

I think that is what makes this an easy decision for me. Pacquiao vs Morales I was not even the best fight on the card, let alone being anywhere near as good Barrera and Morales first fight. If that was the perfect beginning to a trilogy for you, then Barrera Morales 1st fight was a dream.

Good fight. Better than Morales vs Barrera II.

To me, the third fight is everything that is wrong with the sport sometimes. Why was Morales fighting one of the best fighters in the world when he couldn't even make weight and was losing to fights of the Raheem variety. The fight had too happen, I guess, and it did and Pacquiao won in a mismatch situation. Not a great fight, but perhaps a fitting ending.

Not quite as fitting as Barrera vs Morales III. Both fighters, still very good, and this time we have a pretty clear winner. Some people debate it, but you get that with every fight, truth is Barrera landed the harder shots and through 6 rounds tattooed Morales with left hands. The rightful winner, so much skill on display it was ridiculous. You say dull? It won Fight of the year and the MGM grand disagreed with you.

Going into the third fight, they were both 1-1, exactly the way it should have been. The third fight was beautiful craftsmanship, and had some wonderful exchanges. Better than the third fight of Pac/Morales.

1 great fight, 1 good fight, and 1 mismatch.

The greatest fight of all time (fight of the year), one dull fight, fight of the year.

No contest.