What are some of the most outrageous scorecards ever?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by klion22, Mar 31, 2008.


  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Dude like straight up it was THAT bad. How can someone score every round for a guy fighting a boxing genius from what it appears so far in Mijares. Mijares was sick in that fight, very fast he was like in the matrix dodging punches and punching off angles. I have NO IDEA how he could have scored every round for Navarro. It is totally absurd.
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Barrera-Marquez is one of the hardest fights ive had to score and some judge had Marquez winning what 11 rounds ? Thats just absurd.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    It was the same guy who gave all 12 rounds to Jose Navarro against Mijares. Doug Tucker needs to be investigated.
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I noticed that last night when I remwatched Mijares-Navarro I was looking for this thread. That man is insane im going to keep a eye out for his name in the future.
     
  5. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He also had Williamson ahead of Wlad Klitschko WTF.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    i'm a huge hopkins fan and gave the fight to taylor but Taylor really won his rounds by a hair and Hopkins was the champ so maybe that had something to do with it.

    IMO its bad but not so bad.

    I also thought Diaz beat Morales and had my money on Morales so i don't see any bad scorecards there. The 120-108 for Navarro against Mijares scorecard is perplexing I thought it was a mistake at first. Also I didn't get the 117-111 for Spinks against Taylor scorecard but it seems alot of people did.
     
  7. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Well, in many of those rounds where most people were just giving Taylor rounds off workrate...the punch stats were actually razor thin close, Taylor's just came in combinations, while Bernard's were more methodically placed. Then you factor in the other things that go into scoring a round (defense, clean punching and ring generalship) and they were more in favor of Bernard then most want to admit.
     
  8. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since we've established Doug Tucker's 120-108 Navarro card as our frontrunner, I offer ***drumroll***...

    Robert Paganelli, 99-90 Burton, Augustus - Burton I.
     
  9. Fat Joe

    Fat Joe Let's have it right Full Member

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    I watched this out the corner of my eye (I was reading the paper at the time). I can't comment on whether it was outrageous or not because I wasn't watching it properly but I find it hard to score these little guys when they throw so many punches.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You and i are both Hopkins fans and i tried hard to be objective and i had the fight 6-5-1 (1st round even) for JT. I mean if you just looked at the overall fight, then it's easy to see who was the better boxer in both fights. And that was Hopkins. He landed the cleaner and harder shots in both fights. I don't think JT landed one flush right hand while Hopkins might've landed about 30 in both fights. But they don't score fights that way. The rounds JT won, he won because Hopkins did nothing. Hopkins had a couple of rounds where his output was in the teens! They don't score the rounds he dominated as two. He obviously dominated rounds 9-12.

    But in the bigger scope of things, i guess 8-4 isn't THAT outrageous. But i just don't see HOW one can give 8 rounds to Hopkins in that fight. Too inactive from rounds 1-8.
     
  11. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    you win
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Solid post i agree on all points
     
  13. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    I see what you mean...but you are wrong in one right.

    THEY DO SCORE ROUNDS ON CLEAN PUNCHING, NOT WORKRATE!!!

    Many of the early rounds, Hopkins did more than what most want to give him credit for. But as I said, while Taylor's were flashy combinations (nothing really landing tho), Hopkins were more placed.

    People say Bernard started fighting in the 8th or so normally. And that Taylor just outworked him early....but that isnt how you are supposed to soley score a fight.

    To quote Harold Lederman...."With the emphasis on clean punching...JIM!!!".

    For example...say, if a guy throws 38 times but only lands 5...NONE landing clean...yet his opponent lands 7 out of 13...MOST clean? Who wins the round? Its pretty obvious that the fighter throwing less displayed the better defense, landed the cleaner punches and the fighter throwing more was aggressive, but not effective....again, who wins the round??? I mean, the first guy did throw 3x more punches...but is that the correct way to score???

    (BTW, that was the EXACT punch stats on one of the rounds of the Taylor - Hopkins fight...)

    Now I am SOOOOO against just scoring a round off punch stats alone....but I have also watched that fight AT LEAST 10 times...NEVER scoring it for Jermain. And I scored the second fight a draw, but could see it going to either man. So it has nada to do with being a fan of either fighter....but rather just scoring a fight, how your supposed to score a fight.

    :good
     
  14. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Im curious

    How did you score Penalosa/Deleon?
     
  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Brooklyn is right on the case there - That was the most insane score I've ever seen.

    118-110 Leonard Hagler Judge Juan Guerra (Hagler picked him!!! ha ha)

    Judge: Mike Glienna 115-113 | judge: Paul Smith 115-113 | judge: Dave Moretti 115-113 ~ - ODLH - Vs Sturm A robbery. I notice Goldy wanted no commision investigation for the good of boxing into that fight.

    The other classic -
    judge: Eugenia Williams 115-113 - Holy - Lewis I