What are some things that Dana White/the UFC has done that you approve of?

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  1. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This.

    And it's what makes me laugh when people go all Dana White Zuffa Zombie Gestapo Nazi Mafia and seem all offended that the UFC has done so well.

    Is it ideal? No
    Could things be better? Sure.

    But when you consider the alternatives, the UFC consistently puts on good shows, they consistently have the best talent, they (almost) always make the fights that need to be made. ***** and moan about how they treat their fighters, or how Dana White is Hitler, but without the UFC western MMA would've died a long time ago.
     
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  2. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Their drug testing is arguably the strictest in all of sports. I do not like Dana White or his product but I have to give him credit for that. :good
     
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  3. EazyBreezy

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    Except they don't test for HGH...
     
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  4. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  5. Koa

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    Unified Rules were good to get MMA a spotlight, but since, there has been nothing done to change the rules up take the huge advantage away from non wrestlers. This is supposed to possibly emulate a street fight, or it could emulate what some of the best fighters in the world are capable of. Some of the rules are there for safety sake, others seem more arbitrary and for the sake of some limited studies which say one particular strike is more dangerous than another.

    The type of monopoly Mr. White has as far as fighter sponsors and as far as fighters options/ rights as far as contracts is very oppressive. There is no reason to pay a guy less than 5k to face someone like Crocop when he was coming out of Pride. Guy was one of the most dangerous people to be in a ring with in the world at the time.
     
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  6. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Thread question: "What are some things that Dana White/the UFC has done that you approve of?"

    Stoo and scurla combine to make SEVENTEEN posts so far. (Literally half the thread.)

    Positive things they have said about the organization that brought MMA into the mainstream: 0.

    Not one tiny positive from the UFC according to these guys. According to Stoo and scurla, they have not done a single thing that is positive for the fans or for the sport.

    But it's cool guys. Your knowledgable, evenhanded commentary is entirely worthwhile and a great contribution to the subforum. :good

    :hat
     
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  7. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    Wrong. Very wrong.

    It cannot emulate a street fight, and to run MMA with that mentality is to take it away from PPV cards and free-to-air TV shows, and condemn it to underground, oftentimes illegal "human cockfighting" status.

    For MMA to gain mainstream acceptance, it MUST be viewed as a SPORT, not as an organized streetfight. Things like soccer kicks, stomps etc are FAR FAR too vicious for general public consumption, which is why MMA never gained any serious ground in the West until that **** was taken out of it.

    With regards to "emulating what some of the best fighters in the world are capable of", wrong again. The toughest unarmed combatants in the world cannot fight under any MMA rules, because they don't go for submissions or knockouts, they look to shatter elbows, wrists, knees, throats. A fight in its purest form must be a fight to the death, and its participants must treat it as such and use attacks designed to maim and kill, not merely submit or KO. As soon as you put ANY restrictions on what attacks are available, you lose that angle.

    :hat
     
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  8. tri-pod

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    The whole "emulates a street fight" comment seems like *******izing the sport, and all of the hard work the pioneers of modern MMA put into it, to me. :conf

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  9. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well yeah, westerners tend to be pussies. However the way scoring is, with the value of the takedown, the notion of control *where a fighter can go for a takedown and fail for 3 minutes and still be considered in control during a wall n stall* are quite bogus. At this stage of MMA I would think there would be rules which show less favoritism towards the home style *wrestling*
     
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  10. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It can be taken however, I'm just being honest about the origins. Gracie started the UFC to see what particular style was best under a no rules setting for the sake of exposing BJJ as a superior martial art that even a 160lb man can use against monolithic men, in the worst of situations.

    Keeping this in mind, this is the origin of the UFC. I think people tend to not know that the Gracie's gave birth to the UFC for that soul purpose.
     
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  11. the beaver

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    I'm with you on this one mate :good

    If anyone ever wants to feel depressed just read Scurla posts from time to time, the bloke has some serious hang ups....... Stoo is a little bit different, he doesn't hate all the time like the other PRIDE WANNABE clown.
     
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  12. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    And that's fine, but it's still a LONG way short of what you reckoned it could be.

    Gracie can set up BJJ tournaments all he wants, but if he shows up to UFC1 and he's up against a 6'5" Russian or Israeli special forces commando who is looking to literally kill him, then Royce is very likely going to be killed. Because those guys aren't trained to fight, they are trained to kill.

    :hat
     
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  13. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I reckon it could be a lot better. I think it should stick to its roots, which is what the origin of UFC was. To see what style was best, today we could see what cluster of styles works best. Right now we see what tactics work the best given the rules. Not always do we get to see who the best fighters are, with the best styles. The most intriguing aspect is when we see a style, like Machida's that is all but written off, but given life because one guy is able to pull it off well.

    That is MMA at its best imo. That is what is beautiful about the sport. Not the wall n stall, I'm going to employ my wrestling to prevent my opponent from fighting at all.
     
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  14. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    i dont thank Dana white for anything, but the UFC has changed the face of mma. But the UFC "killed pride" and turned mma into more a boring sport spectator sport imo we need pride rules back. As for being grateful for dana white and his contribution he has only created a zombie following of spectators for this sport that **** me off e.g. ****** bieber at the last UFC.
     
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  15. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    i like how they can, contrary to many boxing events, put a decent card together more often than not...and not just sell a main event carded with a bunch of garbage under card fights


    i know they have some filler events, and not all cards are great...but for the most part, they put together some nice events
     
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