What are the best tactics for Shane to use vs Floyd?

It's not that Shane isn't a smart fighter, but if Shane tries to make this a tactical fight and force Mayweather to engage he's going to be in for a long night of waiting. As someone said above, Mayweather is fine throwing 20 punches a round, landing 7 or 8, and winning a boring unanimous decision. He will gladly take a slow paced, boring fight because there's basically no way he loses that fight. He doesn't HAVE to engage Mosley. Mosley can wait and wait and wait and Mayweather will happily sit back and watch him and throw a straight right or a left hook every so often and then back away and let Mosley go back to waiting.

Mosley won't let that happen. If the pace gets that slow he will press the fight because he a) wants and b) needs a faster paced fight to pull out a win.

 

No special approach or plan of attack needed. Mosley can do what he says he'll do, and that's be himself. He just better hope he's sharp and crispy. That's what he'll need. A good track run for the old horse.

 

Body! Castillo beat Void and so did Oscar, let that be a blueprint.

 

I agree with this.

 

I didn't exactly mean shane should fight a completely negative fight but use his height and reach advantage effectively while intelligently discerning when and when not to be aggressive. By the way if mosley hasnt lost too much there's no way in hell mayweather is going to win while only throwing 20 punches a round. Doing that to an opponent that has comparable hand speed, experience, a good corner and also a height, reach, and strength advantage, however miniscule they might be, isnt an easy task.

 

Shane has to be the aggressor. If he thinks he will be faster than Floyd and trains like that he will be shocked and then he will not win. He has to train for a walking down Floyd fight and working him to the body.

 

If we will base it on the three fights namely:

- Castillo I
- Judah rounds 1-4
- ODLH

Castillo I's blueprint won't work. It failed when Castillo himself use the same tactic on the 2nd fight, plus Hatton got KO'd and loosing badly on points using that blueprint.

Zab's rounds 1 to 4 won't work either. FMJ adjusted well from round 6 onwards against that style. Don't underestimate Floyd's ability to adjust smartly in the middle of a fight.

ODLH is probably the best bet. Jab, lunge in low, keep on throwing, box and constant head movements. But i reckon since ODLH II was discussed before FMJ retired in 2007, their team probably has a solution to it way back.

Shane has to prioritize avoiding his habit to swing so wide. With FMJ's reflex, he's gonna pot shot quick ones against those.

One thing i notice about posters who have very high hopes for Shane on this fight is: They really think Nazim is a miracle worker. Sorry to break it down to them but, you can't teach old dog new tricks. Nevertheless, i will root for Shane.

 

Dear Floyd,
Please potshot the sugar off of Shanes face for 12 rounds and win an embarrassingly easy UD. Thank you
Love,
Nazim

 

I really think the only chance Shane has is to throw the jab for range, not necessarily to land. and then lead with a left hook or right hand to get inside, then Hopkins up the hell out of Floyd. Shane has 3 strengths he can absolutely utilize in this fight:

1. Speed - Not necessarily a "speed advantage" over Floyd, but he has the speed to keep Floyd guessing by keeping range with a busy jab and then leading with a left hook or right hand to get himself inside before any counters.

2. Physical Strength - Once he is inside he, unlike Hatton, can really move Floyd where he wants (See Margo fight, at points Shane lifted Margo up and turned him into the ropes). This type of physicality can frustrate and wear on Floyd.

3. Chin - He won't be able to take ANY punch Floyd throws, timing angles and accuracy can crack ANY chin, so he can't be like Margarito but he can take Floyds basic counters enough for himself not to get discouraged and stop attacking.

 

It has to be a mixture of all 3 three.

Floyd adapts. Give him a few rounds and he'll know what to expect, from there he can easily defend and counter.

Shane has to keep him guessing, feints and dummies. Maybe double up on the right hands, go for a right then throw a left hook, stuff like that, but constantly keep him guessing.

 

Wrong.

Castillo was thoroughly out-boxed in the rematch for one-reason, Mayweather was completely fit, unlike the first fight.

He couldn't keep Castillo off because he had a torn rotator cuff. You pressure Mayweather like that and you are asking to be hit all night long.

 

Combination of the 2nd and 3rd one. I dont think Shane should be too close to PBF on the inside cause PBF ties up well and his inside defense is good, shane will be smothering his punches and not get any power off them. He also cant be out at a far distance cause PBF will just jab and pot shot him. He needs to stay close but not smother himself.


I think work rate and combinations is more important that pressure. PBF fights good going backwards and I dont think Shane should try to get him on the ropes because PBF is slick on the ropes and protects himself well there. DLH did well going to the body and as Stewart said it wasnt really effective but the judges liked it as it was atleast a decent volume of punches landing.


You can see in the Corely fight when he stuns him and backs PBF to the ropes he is unable to land a single follow up shot. PBF is slick on the ropes. Hatton was wild but still he got his knock out running in towards PBF when he thought he had him cause he was close to the ropes but PBF just sidestepped it and countered. Mosley will smother himself if he stays with PBF on the ropes too long, he wont have the room he wants and PBF will just elbow him and slip and slide away.

 

He needs to start the fight aggressively, no feeling out. Mosley has the physical strength and has always been the stronger fighter. He is fooling himself thinking he'd outbox and outsmart Floyd. Start out with a stiff jab work Mayweather to the ropes and break him down. If a fighter breaks down mentally then the body goes. Mosley is always in tip top shape and has good speed and power. He needs to throw a stiffer less pitty pat jab. Once the rounds go on, then he could start mixing in body and head shots and impose his will working for a late stoppage....IMO his only way to win:good

 

If it was so easy to use Castillo's blueprint castillo wouldnt have lost himself in an immediate rematch. People always forget that part when they bring up the first fight.

He also had 10 lbs on mayweather the first fight on fight night. Shane aint going to be 10 lbs bigger in may.