What are the biggest ducks of boxing history?

Why don't you explain to us, how any person could have negotiated with an egomaniac, who wanted the entire PPV revenue from a potential $200m + fight?

It wasn't a starting point, it was a joke!

FYI - Floyd never mentioned anything about wanting his future opponents tested, when he was giving media interviews, radio interviews, and chatting with fans on forums throughout the first half of 2009.

It was only after September, after Floyd Snr had made his comments.

Manny was happy to be tested, but not randomly up until the day of the fight.

You're just another guy who condones any of what Floyd does, says or demands, yet when his opponents don't comply, it's they who are in the wrong.

Every day it's "Manny walked away from negotiations."

HE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE, IF FLOYD HAD GIVEN HIM WHAT HE WANTED!

Have you ever given that any thought?

NO!

It was all Manny's fault for not agreeing to everything! atsch

 

I agree. Good post. You've made some good points.

In my opinion, Floyd should have had the bigger share, 55-45 in his favour.

I didn't agree with Manny wanting 50-50 before OSDT was ever mentioned.

But Floyd has to share the majority of the blame.

 

Easy for you to sit there and say "ALL" he had to do was......

 

Right, so Floyd has the right to stipulate ANYTHING?

But if Manny doesn't agree, it's suspicious? :good

King Floyd can do anything, say anything, request or demand anything, but if it's not agreed to by his opponent, it's they who are in the wrong?

Stop with the 'I'm not a Pacquiao fan' ?

Check my post history.

Or to make it easier, I don't have to pretend to like or dislike someone to get my point across.

It is possible to not love one guy and hate the other, just to let you know.

My reasons for not being a fan:

(in my honest opinion)

1. I think he's overrated.

2. His titles across 8 divisions is bull****.

3. His win against Oscar was a joke.

 

floyd duckweather

 

It wasn't a starting point, it was a joke!
It was kind of joke even though it was like 3x more then h ever made but true the fight still
coula got 2m ppv at that point, BUT that shoul have been a starting point floyd was pissed at them
and was trying to show who was in control paq said 50/50 of NO fight, he didnt even try to settle
a better deal. floyd made it clear 50/50 would never be on the table again so he was rubbing it in hi
face. he coul have said 60/40 or 75/25 since he is the challanger but he didnt. said 50/50
and hung up

FYI - Floyd never mentioned anything about wanting his future opponents tested, when he was giving media interviews,
radio interviews, and chatting with fans on forums throughout the first half of 2009.

i dont understand why testing was such a issue for you guys, team paq KNEW (this is a fact) prior to the negotiations
that floyd was requesting, stipulating ost testing. team paq knew about it and had no problems so why would he have
to mention that to his fans ? it was part of the deal already. I can understand paq not wanting testing
within a couple days, even a week prior to the fight BUT he wouldnt budge off 24 days. if you watched 60 mins
with the A Rod situation they now have test shots and pills that are undetectable even 10 hours later.
i have no idea how but the lab owner told everyone on 60 min how ALL his atheletes could pass the test as long as they
knew the day of the test. so if they had real random testing way more MLBers would be caught. the know when they
have to be tested and can wait all day before takin the test. I did NOT know this back in 09 10 or even 2 months ago.

so now i fully expect ost to be implemented all the way to the fight


Manny was happy to be tested, but not randomly up until the day of the fight.

Dude come on, that was the WHOLE problem, he wanted announced testing or at least a cutoff which takes the
random ou of it



You're just another guy who condones any of what Floyd does, says or demands, yet when his opponents don't comply, it's they who are in the wrong.b

no i don't, like i stated time and again, i blame floyd too. his ego was one of the problems.
the only thing i say is IF paq agreed to testing the fight would had happened. and is state the FACT
his team walked and thats all i state.


Every day it's "Manny walked away from negotiations."

and everyday that is a TRUE statement. BUT i only say it will people like you
continuously and ignorantly blame floyd completely and say he been runnning and ducking paq.



HE WOULDN'T HAVE DONE, IF FLOYD HAD GIVEN HIM WHAT HE WANTED!

Have you ever given that any thought?

NO!

It was all Manny's fault for not agreeing to everything!


i really dont follow you here. paq had ALL the stipualation except for the testing. floyd agreed to everything.
this is another thing that makes no sense. you guys claim paq didnt AGREE to EVERYTHING but still floyds fault.

what is thie everything ? it was 1 ONE thing, the testing. AND fyi: fact here, floyd
relented all the way to 14 days..

 

Do you know anything about boxing?

 

John L. Sullivan vs Peter Jackson 1891
Tommy Ryan vs Barbados Joe Walcott 1898
Sam Langford vs Jack Johnson II 1910-15
Jack Dempsey vs Harry Wills 1920-26
Gene Tunney vs Kid Norfolk 1922-26
Jimmy McLarnin vs Jack Kid Berg 1931
Henry Armstrong vs Kid Azteca 1940
Fritzie Zivic vs Holman Williams 1941
Ray Robinson vs Holman Williams 1941
Ezzard Charles vs Eddie Booker 1942
Jimmy Bivins vs Eddie Booker 1942
Tony Zale vs Holman Williams 1942
Tony Zale vs Jack Chase 1942
Ray Robinson vs Cocoa Kid 1943
Rocky Graziano vs Kid Azteca 1946
Ray Robinson vs Kid Azteca 1946
Joe Louis vs Elmer Ray 1946-47
Jake Lamotta vs Charley Burley 1947
Rocky Graziano vs Charley Burley 1947
Jersey Joe Walcott vs Archie Moore 1950
Rocky Graziano vs Jake LaMotta 1950
Ray Robinson vs Charley Burley 1951
Kid Azteca vs. Carmen Basilio 1953
Eder Jofre vs Jesus Pimental 1965
Ruben Olivares vs Ernesto Marcel 1973-74
Joe Frazier vs Ken Norton 1973
George Foreman vs Jerry Quarry 1973
Victor Galindez vs John Coneth 1974-78
Roberto Duran vs Antonio Cervantes 1975-77
Larry Holmes vs George Foreman 1977
Carlos Palomino vs Pipino Cuevas 1978
Wilfredo Gomez vs Danny Lopez 1979
Larry Holmes vs John Tate 1979
Lupe Pintor vs Jeff Chandler 1980-84
Salvador Sanchez vs Eusebio Pedroza 1980-82
Salvador Sanchez vs Alexis Arguello 1980
Roberto Duran vs Aaron Pryor 1980
Roberto Duran vs Alexis Arguello 1980
Roberto Duran vs Tony Ayala Jr. 1982
Dwight Qawi vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad 1982
Larry Holmes vs Michael Dokes 1982
Aaron Pryor vs Ray Mancini 1982
Larry Holmes vs Greg Page 1983
Thomas Hearns vs John Mugabi 1984
Ray Leonard vs Donald Curry 1984
Ray Leonard vs Aaron Pryor 1984
Pinklon Thomas vs Larry Holmes 1984-85
Azumah Nelson vs Barry McGuigan 1985
Hector Camacho vs Livingstone Bramble 1985
Mike McCallum vs Thomas Hearns 1986
Julio Cesar Chavez vs Azumah Nelson 1988
Orlando Canizales vs Raul Perez 1988
Orlando Canizales vs Miguel Lora 1988
Jung-Koo Chang vs Myung-Woo Yuh 1989
Mike Tyson vs Evander Holyfield 1989
Mike Tyson vs George Foreman 1990
Mike Tyson vs Lennox Lewis 1990-91
James Toney vs Gerald McClellan 1992
James Toney vs Nigel Benn 1993
Riddick Bowe vs Lennox Lewis 1993-95
Gerald McClellan vs Roy Jones Jr 1994
Ricardo Lopez vs Michael Carbajal 1995
Riddick Bowe vs Mike Tyson 1995
Oscar De La Hoya vs Kostya Tszyu 1996
Mike Tyson vs David Tua 1996
Tito Trinidad vs Ike Quartey 1997-99
Johnny Tapia vs Mark Too Sharp Johnson 1998
Ike Ibeabuchi vs Mike Tyson 1999
Ike Ibeabuchi vs Evander Holyfield 1999
Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins 2 2000
Roy Jones Jr. vs Dariusz Michalczewski 2000
Oscar De La Hoya vs Tito Trinidad II 2000-04
Shane Mosley vs Tito Trinidad 2000
Naseem Hamed vs Juan Manuel Marquez 2001
Naseem Hamed vs Erik Morales 2001
Kostya Tszyu vs Shane Mosley 2002
Ricardo Mayorga vs Antonio Margarito 2003
Juan Manuel Marquez vs Erik Morales 2003-05
Joe Calzaghe vs Sven Ottke 2004
Floyd Mayweather vs Kostya Tszyu 2004-05
Floyd Mayweather vs Antonio Margarito 2006
Floyd Mayweather vs Paul Williams 2007
Floyd Mayweather vs Miguel Cotto 2008
Floyd Mayweather vs Manny Pacquiao 2009
Wladimir Klitschko vs Vitali Klitschko 2010

 

Interesting thread that will upset many.

I dont know if anyone was ducking but Bowe/Lewis was a shame it didnt happen and I dont know why Hatton didnt fight Witter who seemed to want it badly. There were several fights that Hatton didnt have that I felt he should have had.

 

okay let me change that to the ONLY think that paaq needed to do was take the SAME tests as floyd was going to take,

same one as holy and tyson took. ya i know never done before yet ALL pro sports have way better testing than boxing and they are continuously beaten

 

Shane ducking Floyd? OP, you don't know what the F you're ralking about.

 

floyd ducking pacquiao...

a rare 1 and 2 p4p fighters squaring off...

 

you try to tell someone they dont know what the are talking about because they bring up a duck that you dont like ?

ssm declined to fight floyd when floyd was back at 130, he was willing to go to any weight. ssm said no then a year or so later once it was clear how great floyd was he demanded 10M for the fight. well ssm father said we wont do it for less than 10M and they werent even making multilple m's back then never mind 10m

 

I've had another go below.

 

go look into it deeper shane mosley already fought 3 times a year and had his vaction booked also they asked him right after a tough fight i dont know if you boxed before but after a hard fight all you want to do is have a long rest how in the world are you going to tell me shane mosley ducks mayweather he never ducked anyone!
mayweather was the one who was ducking shane mosley all along he waited for him to get old and washed up