What are the biggest Tysdon Myths in your opinion? Lets her them and vote also.

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  1. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ya but those guys, with the exception of Thomas and Tubbs did fight scared. Not that they would have done any better either way.
     
  2. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And what great fighters in the 90's did he fight besides Holyfield and Lewis(who also fought a washed up Tyson and Mike Dominated him in the first, the only round he actually fought)?
     
  3. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well here's what I remember:

    • Tyson was planning to leave King for Harold Smith
    • King talked Tyson into going to the pageant
    • Lawyer King got for Tyson was a tax attorney
    • Desiree Washington filed a lawsuit against her ex-boyfriend for the same thing, but case was thrown out
    • Desiree Washington went to tyson's rooom at 3AM
    Whole thing was just fishy
     
  4. dranon

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    What great fighters did Mike fight in the 80's?? Holmes....he was an old man he used a walker to get to the ring. Lewis and Holyfield would have absolutely smashed anybody mike fought in "his prime" a n y b o d y. Ask Buster Douglas about his run in with Evander.
     
  5. I think Tyson's heart was questionable tbh. Especially towards the end.
     
  6. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Buster Douglas was terribly out of shpe against Holyfield in that fight, even you know that. And Tyson would have smashed Douglas had he came ready to fight that day but he didn't. Douglas had one lucky night but compared to all the guys Mike Beat, most of them were better than Douglas. As for Holyfield and Lewis, Lennox was getting outboxed by Frank Bruno(who wasn't even in the top 5 for 80's heavyweights) and had difficult time with a shot Tucker and if you take away the knockdowns, it would of been a close fight so I'd say Tucker fairs pretty well with Lewis, a prime one that is.(who was faster, more athletic and a much better boxer) Lewis loss to Tyrell biggs in the ameuters, who was one of Tyson opponents in his championship run and Lewis also never beat anyone great, when he was champion. Lewis loss to Ray Mercer(and they robbed mercer that day), who Tyson would of smoked and Lewis was getting outboxed by Vitiali Klitschko(and would of loss that fight too if the doctor didn't stop the fight), and a prime Tyson would walked right thru slow ass Vitaili.

    Holyfiled fought an older holmes that mike fought and mike went right thru a younger and better holmes that Holyfield fought(and Evander struggled with him). Regardless of what you say, Holmes was very well prepared for Tyson when he fought him and you can use all the excuses in the world but holmes fought a very good fight against Tyson and Tyson made him change his gameplan when none of his tatcis worked and he fought the right fight against Tyson, which also proves my point that Tyson was a different fighter back in the 80's, cause that same Holmes would of beat a 90's Tyson.(and also proves that yourger holmes would of been a tad more competitive with his athletic qualities but wouldn't of beatin him and the same damage would of been done had Tyson caught him with the same punch) And I would pick Spinks to beat Evander if they fought, I think Spinks would of outboxed him with his boxing ability and awkward style.
     
  7. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If I remember right, Holyfield fought Tyson by planting his feet and actually being the more physical of the two,
     
  8. dranon

    dranon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok you are obviously a big tyson fan so there's gonna be no gettin thru to you that he fought weak comp.And im to tired to argue lol. So like i said we can just agree to disagree. I respect your opinion but i just disagree.:good
     
  9. Canibus81

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    No, your wrong. He beat Tyson by circling him, counter punching him, and Tieing him up. The reason why he could do that is because Tyson was nothing but a head hunter by that time, didn't move his head as much, go to the body as consistently(which he had hurt Holyfield with a bodyshot in the 5 round of the first fight but he wasn't doing doing that with the ferocity and consistency that he used to do it with) and throw combinations anymore. All of those things is why Holyfield was able to execute that gameplan so effectively and Holmes would of done the same thing to Tyson because he was doing lots of the samethings to Tyson when they fought but the difference was, Tyson wasn't a one dimensional fighter in the 80's, as he was in the 90's.
     
  10. J.E.Cash

    J.E.Cash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    True Larry Homes was already older and on the downslide, but he still had success after Tyson, including a win over Ray Mercer.

    Tyson had lots of good wins in the 80's, considering the heavyweight landscape back then: Tillis, Green, Berbick, Tucker, Biggs, Spinks, Bruno to name a few.

    Some of those guys even gave Lewis/Hollifield trouble, while Tyson simply walked right through them. If Tyson would have stayed with Rooney, he likely would have become the best heavyweight ever.
     
  11. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, sorry, I just call it, how I see it. Lewis fought a washed up shot Tyson and Holyfield fought a over the hill Tyson. I'll say this much though, Holyfield fought a much better Tyson than Lewis did and would fare well with an 88 Tyson better than Lennox would.
     
  12. Duck Dodgers

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    Stopped reading here.
     
  13. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well I was being sarcasstic, don't know if you caught it but apparently not.
     
  14. pong

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    he ducked foreman oh no thats true
     
  15. Hamilton

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    Tyson's competition in the 80s was good. They all didn't become household names, but Rudduck, Green, Tubbs, Smith, those guys were good fighters. And Tyson did not start losing in the 90s because his competition got better. Tyson, after Rooney, became a headhunter. If you watch Tyson fight in the 80s he was a hustler. He did not like to give up rounds. He moved, he adjusted, and he found ways to win fights. Tyson was also a mental midget, and when people started to say he could knock anyone out, he started to believe it and also started to train less and party more. A prime tyson was a dangerous animal. He had heart, skill, power, a chin, and a ferocity we may never see again at heavyweight.