What are the chances of Cotto-Mayweather?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Asterion, Dec 13, 2007.


  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    First of all, you said Mosley didn't have his legs.

    Mosley was bouncing for the majority of the fight against Cotto, yet Cotto still managed to land his devestatingly accurate, and powerful jab.

    Mosley, despite being on his legs, wasn't able to hit Cotto very often with straight rights hands, sure he hit him occasionally, but often when he did land, they were looping shots coming at unorthadox angles.

    Second, in the case of Hatton, he has fought one boxer since Tyzu, which was Collazo, a second teir welterweight if that, and lost in my opinion.

    Hatton handled the fight the way he went in against Floyd, with his hands down by his chin, his head straight up, neglected to throw the jab, and most importantly, went STRAIGHT in.

    Hatton held and was reluctant to give up distance because he can't close distance anything like Cotto does who actually has remarkable boxing skills, which unless your blind, he even proved in his last fight against Mosley as he effectively countered Mosley on the way in.

    Once Hatton began to tire, his inneffectiveness in closing the gap, due to the afformentioned flaws in his approach, rendered him useless and easily countered by right hands.

    It also didn't help that Hatton often leaded with a lead left hook to the head of all places while keeping his right hand low.

    So basically Hatton against a skilled boxer on the outside towards the later part of the fight is practically useless. If you watched the Collazo fight you would have noticed the same thing as Hatton was noticabaly tired and began to get beat up.

    Cotto on the other hand is a very INTELLIGENT pressure fighter. The flaws in your analysis are there because you're only looking at speed.

    Speed is a factor, but when delivering intelligent pressure, it is the STYLE which is most important.

    So yes STYLES do make fights, but Cotto has the much better style.

    Why do you ask?

    Well for one, Cotto's opposition has prepared him for a fight with Mayweather as he has fought Malinaggi, Judah, and Mosley, all guys who are natural boxers when it comes down to it.

    He handled them by keeping his guard up in the traditional stance, with his right hand basically glued against his head, making it very difficult to envision a situation where he would be hit so clean while lunging in with a left hook, (as if he would do that anyway), and he has a very effective jab and is explosive in delivering it.

    His jab is what won him the fight against Mosley, and he has steadily improved it to the point to where I would say it is his best weapon, as it is accurate and POWERFUL.

    Cotto also has his head down so when he is hit with straight shots, if they aren't blocked by his gloves they will hit his forehead, (in contrast Ricky was taking them straight to his face). This is what frustrated Judah and may be a threat to Floyd as his hands are often injured.

    Cotto also comes in at angles instead of going straight foward. He's patient, so while it appears his footwork is slower, it's not, you just don't know what you're looking at.

    Anyway......enough for now.
     
  2. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    You are confusing Cotto with Hatton.

    Cotto throws impressively fluid combinations and gets his distance, something that Hatton obviously didn't do, and DOESN'T do.
     
  3. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Dude, Mailignaggi won five rounds against Cotto and was able to land his jab and straight right all night long.

    Discussion closed about your angles and distance spin job. Save that **** for a washing machine. Mosley's prime was damn near 7 years ago, Malignaggi won more than a few rounds and Judah ripped a whole in his face that was worse than the cuts that stopped Corrales-Casamayor I. In further contrast, Mayweather never looked in trouble, hurt or flustered against Judah whereas Cotto did. You may think its more dominant to have some shaky moments then stop a guy, but I find it much more dominant to win by any means with no shaky moments.
     
  4. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    And Cotto wasn't ready for Floyd then, was he?

    Since then he has a much improved jab and has the experience in learning how to take angles against good boxers.

    For a guy that is a great boxer supposedly, you don't seem to know **** about the sport if you don't understand the importance of the jab.
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent comments mostly. At this point I'm going with Floyd. He's too skilled, too fast, very durable, and at least as smart as Cotto. One cause for hope is Castillo #1 with Floyd. But Floyd was injured, not as experienced, and won the rematch.
     
  6. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Youre taking something out of context. I was contrasting Williams and Cotto at that point.

    Damn, getting desperate are we this afternoon Capfunds?
     
  7. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    I don't need to be desperate. Anybody can see that Cotto is a much more dangerous opponent for Floyd than Hatton.
     
  8. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    I've never claimed to be a great boxer. Stop twisting my words and putting words in my mouth to try to make yourself look better.

    I threw 2000 jabs yesterday, 1000 with each arm in opposing stances (my left peck startin to get noticeably bigger than the right since i started training again) but I don't know the importance of a jab? Thats just comical.
     
  9. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Funny, I've seen posters like Zakman, BigCat and Asterion, all of whom's opinion I respect far more than yours post that they feel the same way that I do.
     
  10. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Asterion and Zakman have never been in a fight their whole life.
     
  11. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Dont get it twisted. The fight will happen sometime next year.
     
  12. Shaolin Box

    Shaolin Box Respect Full Member

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    your a disgrace to the Avator with this moronic statement. Get off this thread.
     
  13. Relentless

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    guru just doesn't wan it to happen, i bet he wants to see floyd vs de la hoya 2.
     
  14. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    **** man all this testosterone being thrown around and the fight is'nt even close to being inked. Amazing!
     
  15. PR Boxing Lore

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    Anyone, who thinks a limited brawler like Hatton had a better a chance at defeating Floy, than Cotto, has some serious bad judgement issues. And I would't take their opinion highly.