What are the differences between a textbook fighter and a technical fighter?

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  1. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I can't really come up with a difference. I tried to see an article explaining the two but I couldn't find one.
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    It depends how you define, i don't think there's much of a difference. Like McGrain said on my thead, fundamentals hold a different definition to technical skills. Fundamentals meaning the basics imo, whereas an all time great technician is a boxer who has skills in ever department you can list. That's my brief take.
     
  3. Thread Stealer

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    I never really thought much of a difference between the two.

    Any time either phrase is mentioned, I think of the same thing.
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    The same in many ways, although a great technical fighter will extend a "text-book" (i.e. fundamentally solid) approach to more than just the rudiments of boxing you might teach an amateur. So, for instance, Kelly Pavlik would be a good technician in terms of just doing the basics in the proper fundamental way, but Bernard Hopkins was a great technician in that he could extend proper fundamental execution to more than just the jab-right, but to feinting, positioning, defence etc.

    In other words: Great technical fighting is like text-book fighting extended to the advanced skill levels of the game. Just because it's text-book doesn't mean you have to stick to the basic aspects of the game.
     
  5. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    How about Felix Trinidad & Calderon?

    Trinidad did the basics but wasn't much of a crafty technician at all. Calderon does the basics and also uses footwork to get out of the way of shots. Is my comparison decent?
     
  6. snakeface

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    basic skills you apply to win. standard but effective.

    technical is more of a science behind the basic skills... the more gifted.
     
  7. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Good way to put it but I also think of defensively-skilled fighters when thinking about technicians. Thanks for the feedback everyone.
     
  8. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    those who have skills do, those who have fundamentals teach
     
  9. snakeface

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    most of the defensively skilled are technicians in the game.

    the know how to not get hit in the middle of fighting different style fighters
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    I agree with you. Nothing interests me more than a technician doing what he does best.
     
  11. PowerPuncher

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    Textbook boxing = finnishing school
    Technician = PHD
     
  12. DonBoxer

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    I like to think of it as Holmes is text book whilst Ali is technical
     
  13. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Ali is not technical.
     
  14. snakeface

    snakeface The Woodside Hurricane Full Member

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    Holyfield looked like a technician against Valuev.
     
  15. teeto

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    Yes.