What are the disadvantages of having ridiculously long reach?

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  1. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    Guys like Paul Williams(79in reach @ 6'1) and Lennox Lewis(84 in reach @6'5) possessed ridiculously long arms and colossal reach. The advantages of this trait are obvious in that it allows a fighter to punch from a longer distance on the outside but what are the disadvantages of having such long arms? Are long armed fighters slower in hand speed due to having to throw and retract such long limbs? Do fighters with average, shorter arms typically possess faster hand speed?
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Infighting can be more awkward, though some make it work.
     
  3. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    Makes sense, the best in fighters seem to be short armed a la Marciano, Frazier, Tua.
     
  4. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Yeah inside fighting
     
  5. damian38

    damian38 BigDramaShow Full Member

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    not always, LL for example had a great inside game despite his freakish reach
     
  6. SKS1943

    SKS1943 Active Member Full Member

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    Uppercuts.
     
  7. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    How bout not being able to parry with the glove when a counter is coming.

    Guy with short arms like Tyson, or to an extent, Mike Perez.....when they miss with the jab and a counter comes back, the tight defense is exceptional....

    Look at Fonfara vs Superbiitch.....everytime Fornfara misses a shot, he's horribly exposed to a massive counter......his surviving the distance vs Superbiitch goes only to show how aweful the hoe really is.:yep:yep:yep
     
  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    That has, I think, more to do with one using proper technique - in both punching and retraction, both steps being equally important - and not so much reach.

    You can be Reed "Mr. Fantastic" Richards and still responsibly get your hands up in position after punching.

    Sure, guys with T-Rex stubs are going to inherently always have their fists closer and needing travel a shorter distance to cover their face, no matter what they are doing with them any given moment - but at the end of the day if you aren't reeling in that line posthaste after each shot and reforming some manner of guard - you are open. Whether your wingspan ranks among the biggest or smallest in the sport. :good
     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :nod

    Perfect example of someone who made lemonade (which itself accepts the kind of silly premise that a boxer gifted with length has indeed been given 'lemons' - since really anywhere except right up close 'n' personal, from mid-range out, that is a distinct advantage...) and uppercuts are probably critical for anyone built that way to have inside success. Straights and hooks just aren't going to be as effective for them.
     
  10. IntentionalButt

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    Obviously the jab has a greatly improved chance of landing, and can build up speed and deliver more snapping impact - but the caveat is that crosses are harder to disguise.
     
  11. zetsui

    zetsui Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Infighting, balance, and bodyweight centering. When your arms hold so much weight you are more likely to be off balance and turn less of that weight into immediate momentum. JCC SR was 5'7 fought guys 5'11 and taller and was a monsterous puncher despite shorter reach.
     
  12. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It is not such a question of extending and retracting as you put it this way but the fact that they have to fight always at long range or at that range where they can combine their long shots, jabs to set up right hands and then holding their ground, taking steps back as guys rush underneath the jab, find themselves trapped with a high arm defense and semi-crouched body to uppercut and short hook in the inside, duck and slip step out off traffic. Something that Alexis Arguello and Aaron Pryor reminds us much of.
     
  13. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good posts IB:good
     
  14. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    One of the disadvantages isn't something that is necessarily dictated by physics, but habit...a lot of long-armed guys with reach advantages develop bad habits that they can get away with against most fighters (such as Liston commonly returning his left to a lower position after he jabs).

    These habits can become ingrained and not so easy to fix on the fly against opponents with a good reach themselves or another advantage (such as speed). It's essentially the reach version of a fighter that falls in love with their power.
     
  15. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was freakishly strong though which will have helped the reach / inside fighting issue.

    Speed could be effected? Possible see the punches coming? :D