What are the most important ways you differentiate Hagler from Monzon?

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  1. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Monzon was tough mentally, Marvin, as great as he was, not so much.
     
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  2. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Yep. Monzon had that mentality that he couldn't lose in the ring. He was your superior, not your equal. He did what he wanted to in the ring.
    Wheras Hagler always seemed to want to prove something to someone else. Inferiority complex?
     
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  3. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Didnt see it myself... but I'm sure people thought he was beatable after Briscoe.
     
  4. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Doubtful Monzon would try to pull a "Hearns" and duke it out with Hagler early in the fight. But Monzon had that sneaky right hand that he left as a "calling card" every time he pulled out of an engagement.
    Although Hagler is shorter than Monzon, his southpaw style, and long reach will allow Hagler to hit Monzon.

    Monzon
    height 5′ 11½″
    reach 76″

    Hagler
    height 5′ 9½″
    reach 75″

    Rodrigo Valdes
    height 5′ 9½″
    reach 69
     
  5. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe back when Hagler began fighting in the 70s, being called gay didn’t necessarily mean a homo? Maybe he was just a cheerful, smiley and happy go lucky guy.....

    .. Hmm, maybe not that.
     
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  6. red cobra

    red cobra VIP Member Full Member

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    What, Monzon-Briscoe l? An early pre title bout (!!)...Hagler sure musta looked beatable after losing to Willie The Worm and Bobby Watts...and I know you can't be talking about Monzon-Briscoe ll...that was a trouncing for Monzon..a very redeeming win.
     
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  7. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Also: Hagler is alive and happily married.
     
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  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could have been an inferiority complex. The whole thing with Leonard didn't help either.
     
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  9. 88Chris05

    88Chris05 Active Member Full Member

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    Hagler was the more skilful fighter - at his very best, he could slip in to gears which Monzon didn't quite possess. However, on resume and achievements I rate Monzon higher.

    Hagler faced (and beat) better names, generally speaking, in their respective pre-title careers, but once they'd lifted the belt Monzon has some decisive edges: fourteen successful defences of the bona fide title slightly eclipse Hagler's twelve; he went out at the top, on the back of one of his best wins, whereas Hagler went out having blown the Leonard fight with a performance which really highlighted his tendency to make things harder for himself than he needed to, a trait which didn't befall Monzon; and while both men did have some key wins against smaller guys, Hagler doesn't have a genuine, thoroughbred Middleweight champion of Valdez's calibre on his championship record.

    At the highest level, Monzon was just that little bit more reliable and consistent than Hagler, which swings it for me. Along with Greb, they make up the Holy Trinity at 160 lb and it would have been fascinating to see how it would have panned out head-to-head.
     
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