What are the top 5 rematches you want to see?

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  1. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Here you go again with the what if's and the if they's. Stick with What is fact, And the picture might become clearer to you. :good
     
  2. Super Hans

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    So answer my question. How many fighters in history are 'all-time greats'. :think
     
  3. wylan911

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    To answer this question with only the top 30 boxers is ridiculous considering boxing has been around for over 100 years and there are 100's of thousands of boxers. Even limiting it to the top 100 is not giving a ton of boxers there due.
     
  4. wylan911

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    The list can go on forever:
    Ali, Dempsey, Armstrong, Louis SRR, SRL, Hagler, Pep, Jack Johnson, John L Sullivan, Greb, Monzon, Holmes, Basillio, Salvador Sanchez, Marciano, Liston, Tunney, Foreman, Frazier, Duran. Mayewather, Pacquiao, Holyfield, Klitschko, Lewis, Pryor, Whitaker, De La Hoya, JCC, Archie Moore, Graziano... Just to name a few.
     
  5. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Flyweight
    Lineal and WBC
    Super Bantam
    WBC, IBF
    Featherweight
    Lineal, WBC and IBF
    Super Feather
    WBC, Lineal
    Lightweight
    WBC
    Jr Welter
    Lineal
    Welter
    WBO
    Jr Middle
    WBO

    You may question the legitimacy of some of these like the JR Middle WBO that neither he nor Margarito were top 10 for, and fought at a catchweight of 150, but the WBO recognized him so. Hence 8 division and 4 weight lineal
     
  6. wylan911

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    I stand corrected, it was the WBC not the WBO at Jr. Middle, but at featherweight he koed Barerra in 2003 for the Lineal title. So, yeah, there's that.
     
  7. wylan911

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    I see where you missed it though, because you looked at boxrec. and it shows the Marquez fight for the IBF Feather and WBA Super feather. What boxrec doesn't sow you though, was that the prev fight against Barerra was for the lineal title. And you should count the magazine (Ring especially) as it is the universally recognized Division title. (guy who beat the guy who beat the guy) ergo THE Champ
     
  8. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    :lol::lol:
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  9. wylan911

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    On November 15, 2003, Pacquiao faced Marco Antonio Barrera at the Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas, in a fight that many consider to have defined his career. Pacquiao, who was fighting at featherweight for the first time, brought his power with him and defeated Barrera via technical knockout in the eleventh round, only the second knockout loss in Barrera's career, and won the Lineal & The Ring Featherweight Championship, making him the first Filipino and Asian to become a three-division world champion, a fighter who won world titles in three different weight divisions.
     
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    Khan vs Prescott
     
  11. wylan911

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    "The Ring has its own championship belt in a given weight class where The Ring champion holds a linear reign to the throne, the man who beat the man. The Ring began awarding championship belts in 1922. The first Ring world title belt was awarded to heavyweight champion Jack Dempsey and the second was awarded to flyweight champion Pancho Villa. The Ring stopped giving belts to world champions in the 1990s, then reintroduced their title in 2002, and ignored the current ongoing world championship lineage.
    The Ring first awarded Roy Jones their light-heavyweight championship belt in 2002 despite Dariusz Michalczewski being regarded as Lineal champion in the same weight class. The Ring then attempted to clear up the confusion regarding world champions by creating a championship policy. It echoed many critics' arguments that the sanctioning bodies in charge of boxing championships had undermined the sport by pitting undeserving contenders against undeserving "champions", and forcing the boxing public to see mismatches for so-called "world championships". The Ring attempts to be more authoritative and open than the sanctioning bodies' rankings, with a page devoted to full explanations for ranking changes. A fighter pays no sanctioning fees to defend or fight for the title at stake, contrary to practices of the sanctioning bodies.
    Under the original version of the policy, there were only two ways that a boxer can win The Ring's title: defeat the reigning champion; or win a box-off between the magazine's number-one and number-two rated contenders (or, sometimes, number-one and number-three rated). A vacant Ring championship was filled when the number-one contender in a weight-division battles the number-two contender or the number-three contender (in cases where The Ring determined that the number-two and number-three contenders were close in abilities and records). A fighter could not be stripped of the title unless he lost, decided to move to another weight division, or retired.
    In May 2012, citing the number of vacancies in various weight classes as primary motivation, The Ring unveiled a new championship policy. Under the new policy, The Ring title can be awarded when the No. 1 and No. 2 fighters face one another or when the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders choose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded The Ring belt. In addition, there are now six ways for a fighter to lose his title: lose a fight in his championship weight class; move to another weight class; not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months; not schedule a fight in his championship weight class for 18 months, even if fighting at another weight class; not scheduling a fight with a top 5 contender in any weight class for two years; or retiring.[4]
    Many media outlets and members are extremely critical of the new championship policy and state that if this new policy is followed the Ring title will lose the credibility it once held"

    Hope this clears it up for you. The WBC, IBF and WBA are alphabet sanctiong bodies, that DO not determine who is Lineal Champ. The Lineal Champ distinction goes along with the Ring Title. Yes they stopped awarding it for years. But it is as legit, even moreso than the Aplhabets WBC WBA and IBF
     
  12. wylan911

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    Are you sure about that. I don't think you researched it very well there my friend. You'll notice throughtout the history the distinction of Lineal Champ has followed that of the The Ring Champ. Look a little deeper.
     
  13. wylan911

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    I'm the unmature/ green one?!? Ok, try this on for size. Hamed won the Lineal/ Ring Title by virtue of TKO of Wlfredo Vasquez and retained it by way of defeats of McCullogh, Ingle and Augie Sanchez. He would lose it to Barerra who would then retain it through victorie over Erik Morales Kevin Kelley, and Johnny Tapia, prior to losing it to Manny Pacquiao, who indeed was the recognized Lineal Champion at the Featherweight division.

    Step ya game up homie. (put that one especially for you)
     
  14. wylan911

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    I'm done. You lost me. He fought Kelley in 97.Soto was in the middle of the fights I mentioned in 99, McCullogh 98, Ingles 99 Sanchez 2000 :patsch
     
  15. wylan911

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    You're done my man.