Well with the exception of Hamed fighting Sanchez before Barerra, you being completely wrong about the Ring Title. (It being the recognized #1 in each division going back as far as 1922) and calling it the Ring Magazine Award. You are totally right, and showed me. I feel like I've been given a boxing lesson. Meanwhile Manny Pacquiao is still an 8 division champion, 4 weight Lineal champion. Featherweight being one of those. Look it up.. Get on my level before you step to me guy.....
Marquez vs Pacman Khan vs Peterson/Garcia Gonzalez vs Estrada Alvarez vs Lara Bradley vs Provodnikov Extra picks: Brook vs Porter and Maidana vs Broner
So basically everyone in history is an ATG you criticize my criteria for establishing an ATG when you don't have one yourself atsch I might make my pro debut next week, lose and I'll be an ATG
That was 30 boxers out of literally 100's of thousands. And the ones I listed are truly elite. So are you saying there are no more truly elite fighters than that?
Elite: noun 1. (often used with a plural verb) the choice or best of anything considered collectively, as of a group or class of persons. So you are saying then that the best are not ATG's Yet another very low quality response by you. You are not very good at this.....
Terence Crawford is an elite boxer? Is he an All time Great? You are absolutely abysmal at this atsch
Terence Crawford is still a young active fighter his status as an ATG is under construction. While a fighter like Pacquiao who is still active. His accomplishments have already signed his entry into that status, same goes for a Klitschko. You sure are not grasping the concept, are you.
So basically you are saying there are 100's of thousands of All Time Greats but you have no criteria atsch How many boxers in total are All Time Greats according to you. :think
I have never made any official list of ATG so, I haven't decided any official criteria for what I consider ATG, I do know however if you accomplish for example being the only 8 Division Champion 1 of only 2 ever 4 division Lineal Champs, or if you're one of only 2 fighters to be a 4 weight Lineal Champs, 1 of only 2 fighters to simultananeously hold the Lineal crown in 2 weight divisions and be top 10 in championship wins. If your name is not there, then no ones should be.
So in other words you have 100's atsch Repeat this term to you "ALL TIME" that could mean 200 years in the future then listen to the nonsense you are spouting. There are at least 50 boxers who have done more than Pacquiao. In that 200 years, will they be talking about him? I doubt it. Will they be talking about Sugar Ray Robinson. More than likely.
Why would ATG mean 200 years in the future when tomorrow is not even promised. Any ATG you name is based on up until NOW. And you say there are 50 who have done more. Name me 50 other fighters that are 8 division champs, name me 50 other fighters that have gained the lineal title in 4 different weightclasses. No need to respond to me with any other answers. Because you WON'T be able to answer that. Because you CAN'T
Why would I have to decide that when they all count as World titles. And not sure what you don't get about the Ring Title being the most reputable of those, but whatever. And I was 18 when Buster Douglas sparked Mike Tyson in the 10th round in Tokyo (I almost cried because Tyson was my favorite at the time). Was suspended 3 days my senior year for fighting a Mexican the day after Meldrick Taylor was robbed of his victory over JCC. So that's 25 years of watching religiously
Says you. History says otherwise. The WBO's official website of all places even credits Manny Pacquiao's Lineal title based off that Ring "Magazine" Title. So while You, may say it's impossible to do both, I think you will find that history doesn't have your back there buddy. I'm just keeping it real, as in the real world. Maybe you should join.