What are Wallin’s advantages over Joshua?

ForemanJab · Dec 12, 2023

Movement, Ring IQ, confidence, durability.

Glass 1/2 Empty · Dec 12, 2023

Cally said: ↑

It's a clever confidence building fight really i think, cos let's face it AJ needs as much of that as he can get at the moment. Lol.

Joshua will be up for this one having already been in with wallin and beat him in the ams, his confidence will be far better for this fight than it has in years!
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Yep. 100%

If Joshua knocks out Wallin decisively, he'll have beaten the man who nearly beat the man.

CroBox29 · Dec 13, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

No version of Joshua has KO'd anyone of substance early, nor could he put a dent in Wallin in their amateur 3 rounders. Joshua can open up for 90-180 seconds but then needs 3-5 rounds to recover (Wlad, Pulev, Usyk 2).
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Agreed.

VOXDEI · Dec 13, 2023

AJ is definitely the favourite but I suspect guys who think it will be an "easy night" are delusional.

Though not on AJ's level, Wallin's power is probably underrated, he hurt Gassiev in their fight.

He also has shown tactical versatility. He fought on the backfoot v Gassiev but looked to chase Fury down (with much success) in their fight and he looked highly disciplined with both game plans, which is not AJ's strong suit.

AND Wallin seems to be able to raise his level of performance to meet the man in front of him which could make him easy to overlook.

humbug · Dec 13, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

I would say:

Chin

IQ

Engine

Mentality (composure, self-belief, hunger, determination, courage)

Less pressure (Joshua’s career is on the line and he’s expected to make a statement)

Preparation (Wallin’s seen Joshua as a potential pro opponent for years)

Southpaw

Rough tactics

Form (Wallin's win over Gassiev is a better win than Joshua’s had since 2018)

Age/wear (Wallin is 13 months younger and has had fewer hard fights)

Training camp stability (Joshua’s on his 4th trainer in 5 fights)

Relatively short notice (Joshua hasn’t performed well and has lost on short notice)

One loss vs three humiliating losses

Wallin’s also a rare Joshua opponent who isn’t small or past his best and he's much better than Breazeale.
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Wallin’s willingness to engage could be a problem if Joshua chooses to fight tentatively and tries to outbox him, this could see a scenario where Wallin is out landing Joshua whilst putting away rounds and wins a UD.

I think Joshua puts an emphasis on going on the attack and meets Wallin head on, I think he’ll wear Wallin down and knock him out in the latter half of the fight.

Komaster · Dec 13, 2023

50 50 fight

Kev2k83 · Dec 13, 2023

He has pretty good feet.

That's why he gave fury problems cus he had him constantly turning

Vegan Beast · Dec 13, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

I would say:

Chin

IQ

Engine

Mentality (composure, self-belief, hunger, determination, courage)

Less pressure (Joshua’s career is on the line and he’s expected to make a statement)

Preparation (Wallin’s seen Joshua as a potential pro opponent for years)

Southpaw

Rough tactics

Form (Wallin's win over Gassiev is a better win than Joshua’s had since 2018)

Age/wear (Wallin is 13 months younger and has had fewer hard fights)

Training camp stability (Joshua’s on his 4th trainer in 5 fights)

Relatively short notice (Joshua hasn’t performed well and has lost on short notice)

One loss vs three humiliating losses

Wallin’s also a rare Joshua opponent who isn’t small or past his best and he's much better than Breazeale.
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How has Wallin proven has has a higher ring IQ that AJ?

Aj has a good ring IQ, he just doesn't have the same level IQ as the likes of the Klits and Usyk.

AJ's chin is underrated. AJ has never really been knocked out. He was TKO'd vs Ruiz due to a lucky temple shot.

He took a massive shot from Wlad and survived.

The only advantages I see Wallin having is Age/Stamina and maybe confidence.

Joshua is a better boxer than Wallin is.

Who is Wallin's best win? Gassiev? Who made a big mistake coming up to HW.

Redbeard7 · Dec 13, 2023

Vegan Beast said: ↑

How has Wallin proven has has a higher ring IQ that AJ?

Aj has a good ring IQ, he just doesn't have the same level IQ as the likes of the Klits and Usyk.

AJ's chin is underrated. AJ has never really been knocked out. He was TKO'd vs Ruiz due to a lucky temple shot.

He took a massive shot from Wlad and survived.

The only advantages I see Wallin having is Age/Stamina and maybe confidence.

Joshua is a better boxer than Wallin is.

Who is Wallin's best win? Gassiev? Who made a big mistake coming up to HW.
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Joshua is by nature a dumb meathead brawler who thinks he's a cerebral boxer (but on some level knows he's not). Examples of his low ring IQ include trying to brawl with Ruiz and trying to have a 12 round chessmatch with Usyk. He's not especially adaptive and needs to be pre-programmed in training camp. He asks bouncers for tactical advice before going into fights because he lacks confidence in his ring smarts.

Wallin is much more intelligent than Joshua and the success he's had has come in large part from being able to box intelligently, not because he's a powerhouse offensive force.

Joshua doesn't have much confidence in his chin/punch resistance, hence he looked scared of his own shadow vs Franklin and Helenius. The fact that he got dropped four times and quit in 7 against a fighter who couldn't put a dent in journeymen like Liakhovich, Kevin and Arreola (and those are three of Ruiz's five best wins) is strong evidence of shoddy punch resistance. As is the fact that he hasn't got in with a bona fide puncher since 41 Wlad in 2017, where he went life and death and was there for the taking for about 5.5 rounds.

Joshua's best win came 6.5 years ago and his only win since then which I'd rank as better than Gassiev is Povetkin in 2018. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then too.

Bubba · Dec 13, 2023

ipitythefool said: ↑

He doesn't have Boxercise Ben in his corner.
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I pity the fool!

Vegan Beast · Dec 19, 2023

Redbeard7 said: ↑

Joshua is by nature a dumb meathead brawler who thinks he's a cerebral boxer (but on some level knows he's not). Examples of his low ring IQ include trying to brawl with Ruiz and trying to have a 12 round chessmatch with Usyk. He's not especially adaptive and needs to be pre-programmed in training camp. He asks bouncers for tactical advice before going into fights because he lacks confidence in his ring smarts.

Wallin is much more intelligent than Joshua and the success he's had has come in large part from being able to box intelligently, not because he's a powerhouse offensive force.

Joshua doesn't have much confidence in his chin/punch resistance, hence he looked scared of his own shadow vs Franklin and Helenius. The fact that he got dropped four times and quit in 7 against a fighter who couldn't put a dent in journeymen like Liakhovich, Kevin and Arreola (and those are three of Ruiz's five best wins) is strong evidence of shoddy punch resistance. As is the fact that he hasn't got in with a bona fide puncher since 41 Wlad in 2017, where he went life and death and was there for the taking for about 5.5 rounds.

Joshua's best win came 6.5 years ago and his only win since then which I'd rank as better than Gassiev is Povetkin in 2018. There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then too.
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Joshua is not dumb at all, he's definitely a lot better than average, he's just not ATG quality. He can box well, he has a good jab if he uses it.

He could easily UD most in the division, just not the absolute best.

Wig · Dec 19, 2023

Brain : OTTO
Chin : OTTO
Heart : OTTO

Lynx sales : AJ

Joy_Rones · Dec 19, 2023

Too much diss on AJ, too much hype for Wallin. If Joshua delivers anything short of a demolition job, I'd be shocked.

chico g · Dec 19, 2023

Wallin doesn't look like a bodybuilder from the start. He isn't wearing baby oil, and isn't posing for the camera's either! lmao

lepinthehood · Dec 19, 2023

Wallin can box.

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