What are your strangest boxing opinions?

my top three heavyweight list is

1. rocky marciano
2. larry holmes
3. ali

most people find that very strange

 

:roll:

:hi:

 

Well, you must know, for Clay II Ali was/ is/ will be always Batman, Superman, He-Man, Spiderman, etc. all in one person!!!!

 

More ******ed than strange.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez and Bernard Hopkins are the technically the best in the business today.

Larry Holmes was the most complete heavyweight of all time.

Buster Douglas would have defeated the Tyson of 1986-1988.

With all the safety measures monitoring fighters weights these days, 15 round championship fights should be given a 12 month trial period.

All three judges should score major championship fights watching on TV monitors in booths away from the event itself. This would give each judge the exact same view of the fight, from a wide variety of angles. Obviously no commentary or replays are allowed. Ropes are a constant distraction to a judges view. The only problem would be reliablity, as TV black outs could occur.

All boxers should wear red gloves.

 

LOL.

Oh, I'm quite aware of Butterfly's fondness for Mr. Ali, Luigi, and maybe even overly so, as he about flooded us with Ali threads/talk on the last site we were on together.

That little roll of the eyes smilie is a long running inside joke between me and him actually.

 

Barrera won all 3 fights against Morales.

 

Wladimir Klitschko would beat: Joe Louis, Larry Holmes, Rocky Marciano and Evander Holyfield.

Winky Wright is a top 10 middlewieght, head to head. I think he would beat Carlos Monzon and prime Bernard Hopkins. I think age has been unkind to him though and I wouldn't be suprised to see Hopkins, who has aged very well, beat him.

Jake LaMotta was nothing more than a crude tough guy. I don't hae him in my top 15 at middleweight. Many fast, agile boxers would do a number on him.

Marcel Cerdan would have anything like the record he ended up with, if he had fought in America througout his career. His record makes JCC's look...good.

Wladimir Klitschko has the greatest offensive skills of any heavyweight, except Joe Louis.

Bob Fitzsimmons would not be ranked in the top 20 of any division from 160 to heavyweight in 2007.

 

Jack Johnson is the most overrated heavyweight ever. If he were fighting today, almost no one would want to pay to see him fight, except those who like slow, dull, boring, defensive fights with single punches at a time thrown, lots of clinching, and only occasional combination spurts.

 

I agree. The best fighters on his resume were, what, 15lbs under his weight? Considering how Tito and De La Hoya struggled against mediore opposition at that eight, him beating them is not a big achievement. Beating Tarver was impressive, but then again, it's Tarver. A man who struggled to make weight, been away from boxing for a long time, and made his name knocking out an old Jones Jr..

He lost fairly to Jermain Taylor, who himself struggled more with Cory Spinks. A welterweight.

When you break it down, Hopkins' record is very poor.

 

Completely agreed, Jack!

 

I do rank Ali #1 at heavyweight, but I think Lennox Lewis would beat the 70's version.

I really do think that Mike Tyson was mad at the headbutts in his fight with Holyfield, and it did make him snap.

I think that Larry Donald may have been able to beat a peak Holyfield, it's a style thing.

I believe Oscar was the true villain of the Mayorga fight. He picked someone with the intent of looking like the good guy, while fighting someone he knew was inferior technique wise.

I don't think George Foremam was ever really a bad guy, and he is now super nice. He was never mean, he just smiles more now.

I thought that Hamed deserved to be the#1 Featherweight when he was winning, and did pick Barrera against him. That is not the strange one. I thought "Smoke" Gainer would have beaten him too.

Jack Dempsey shouldn't be awarded a top 10 all time spot, because he never fought Harry Wills. This fight was more important than usual, because of the fact you had the best white heavyweight and the best black heavyweight in the world. The only way to find out who the best heavyweight was for them to fight each other. I know the fight not happening may not have been the fighter's faults, but I can't reward them with a top 10 placement since it didn't happen.

 

Hindsight is a wonderfull thing. Hopkins was not given a prayer against Tarver, and many even had him marked down for the first knockout loss of his career. Credit must got to Hopkins for moving up two divisions. Tarver is now viewed as an overated fighter, but only after Hopkins dominated him over 12 rounds. The same applies to Calzaghe's win over Lacy. Prior to fighting Hopkins, Trinidad blasted out Joppy inside 5 rounds, and your not going to tell me Joppy wasn't a big player in the middleweight division up until he got his ass handed to him that night.

If Hopkins record is way over the top, what about Hagler's?. His biggest win during the first 5 years of his reign at 160lbs was is points win over Duran, who was 25lbs above his prime weight. Sibson, Caveman Lee, Hamsho, etc. Solid wins, but hardly anything you would call unforgettable.

 

I want some of what you're smoking.

 

.....................but he could not KO Golota in 2 WHOLE FIGHTS haha