What are your strangest boxing opinions?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by cross_trainer, Jul 6, 2007.


  1. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course, it's in the spirit of this thread that I offer this.

    In the early 1940's Willie weighed over 130 for a couple bouts, while Robinson was as low as 135 for Maxie Shapiro. (Keep in mind that Henry Armstrong had also been a featherweight champion who later went the distance with Robinson, and Hank was outweighed for many of his WW Title defenses by a good deal more than SRR would have outweighed Pep by.)

    Do I win for strangeness of opinion here?
     
  2. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Tyson vs Etienne was a fixed fight.
     
  3. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    Ike Ibeabuchi is so overrated it makes me cringe.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Gatti v Ward I must be the most overrated fight in boxing history. The first 5 rounds were hardly exciting, with Ward advancing and throwing as good as "nothing". Gatti picked his punches well, mixing in sharp jabs with right hands. The 9th round is what you would call "great" and other rounds were very good as well. But its nowhere near, Barrera v Morales I, Pryor v Arguello 1, Castillo v Corrales I, Frazier v Ali III, etc.

    It was a very good fight, but I'm amazed people rate it was one of the greatest fights in boxing history.
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I thought the first 4 rounds were fairly entertaining, the 5th was great, rounds 6-7 were fairly entertaining, round 8 was good, round 9 was classic, round 10 was alright but people were still in awe from the previous round.

    I think it is mainly the trilogy that is overrated, more so than the first fight (which is not Gatti's most entertaining fight, btw, that is Robinson I) being overrated. It had one great fight, one okay one, and one good one, with just one fight that was competitive and close. Gatti won 80% of the rounds in the trilogy. The 2nd best fight of the trilogy, the rubber match, wouldn't make my top 5 list for Gatti or Ward.

    Among this decade, Erik Morales alone was involved in two trilogies that were better.
     
  6. Lostmykeys

    Lostmykeys Active Member Full Member

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    I had Trinidad beating ODLH.
     
  7. lillarry

    lillarry Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray is a top 5 atg and would have given the other Sugar Ray a run for his money
     
  8. ajohnfp

    ajohnfp Sooner Full Member

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    Riddick Bowe would beat a number of staple top ten heavyweights.
     
  9. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pryor-Arguello I is insanely overrated. Not even the best fight of that year, let alone one of the greatest of all time. Those who say it is have bought into the hype that two exciting, all-time greats paired together has to be a great fight. A good one, but hardly great. Pryor had that one all the way. The outcome was never in question, in spite of what some myopic judges may have thought.


    I also think Marciano-Walcott I was pretty run-of-the-mill. Not even as good as Pryor-Arguello. A lot of mauling, very little clean punching. I've seen at least ten heavyweight fights better than this, and heavyweights suck by definition. Therefore, this can't rank even in the top 50.
     
  10. Marvelous Marcum

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    Roy Jones is the most talented boxer ever to lace up gloves.

    Ali is the most overrated athlete ever. (Not that he's not amazing... but come on now.)
     
  11. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I thought that Trinidad beat DLH, but that was when I watched the fight when it actually happend. I wanted Trinidad to win. :D

    Now I think DLH beat Trinidad. :yep

    Frazier would have KO Ali if he had just fought the final round.

    Hearns would have defeated Hagler if he had box the same (similar) way SRL did.
     
  12. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why is your avatar Rachael Raytard?
     
  13. buzzsaw

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    Boxing should go back to laces only…no tape

    Before banned, Ali was the Greatest Heavyweight EVER!

    If you lose your mouthpiece you, not the ref, should have to pick it up while fighting.

    Larry Holmes is comparable to Joe Louis in every category.

    The ring announcer’s mike should always be lowered from the ceiling (Looks Cool!)

    Sugar Ray Leonard was the greatest Welter of all time.

    If a fighter punches his opponent at weigh in, he should go in already losing first round.

    Hagler did not beat Vito! So stop with the “He was robbed!”

    Weigh-ins should be the day of the fight.

    Tony Baltazar, Howard Davis Jr and Johnny Verderosa would all be champs today.

    If they have to stop the fight more then once to tape up your trunks, then you should have to fight without them.
     
  14. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fullmer in 1961. Was on the ropes for about a minute without throwing
    a punch.
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    True enough, Hagler didnt look so good in struggling with Duran and Caveman Lee and some of his other challengers were nothing great, but the blowout of Hearns after taking everything he could dish out is the achievement that makes Hagler an all time great champion in my opinion. That performance alone established Hagler as an animal. Very, very impressive performance that defines the kind of will to win that all champions should have. Hopkins on the other hand is a modern day marvel, who took the measure of all of his challengers and adapted his style in a most effective and intelligent way. However, he didnt have a monster destroyer like Hearns to threaten him like Hagler did. Both were great champons, but Hagler distinguished himself a bit more than Hopkins. That much said however, I think Carlos Monzon would have beaten them both.