What are your strangest boxing opinions?

It also picks up the sound of the action when suspended slightly above the ring.

Writer Bob Waters claimed that Vito won 11 of the 15 rounds.

Not only that, but the scale should be brought into the ring so they can weigh in immediately before the contest (like Willard and Johnson did).

A really entertaining post, but I figured I'd just restrain myself to those few comments.

 

Speculation. The Ali in 1967 was getting better and improving as a fighter and then had it all taken away. THe comeback slower Ali in 1970 was a declined version. How can that be better for Ali as a fighter? You don't make sense.

 

:huh It's the joker.

 

After bating John Ruiz Roy Jones Jr. should have fought as a Cruiserweight. it would have been less stress on his body, and he had the name recanition to atractt attition to the division.
My who beats who on their best night all-time heaveyweight looks like thus
1. Lennox Lewis 2. Mike Tyson 3. Muhammad Ali 4. :bbb Riddick Bowe:bbb 5. Joe Louis 6. Sonny Liston 7. Vitali Klitschko 8. Jack Johnson 9. Wladimir Klitschko 10. Jack Dempsey tie with Rocky Marciano.

Primo Carnera and Nikolay Valuev are better rhan given credt for.

Going from 15 to 12 rounds was a good idea. (most boxing related brain damage is from taking blows over a long period of time, and not one or two big shots.)

Today's top 10 heaveyweights would do a lot better in any past eara than most people think.

Marco Antonio Barrera is the best Pound4Pound boxer of all-time from Mexico.

Sugar Ray Leonard realy did beat Marvin Hagler.
:rasta :good :bbb

 

Against the grain of the overall consensus, I believe Joe Frazier of 1968 - '71 would stand a decent chance of beating a prime George Foreman.

 

Hagler wiped out Lee in about 67 seconds, from memory finishing him with a scorching jab hybrid. This was the fight that convinced Steward to pull Hearns out of the Hagler fight and wait a few years for Tommy to grow and mature more. I think you might be mixed up with another fight, but to be honest Hagler really didn't have any poor performances around this time.

 

nelson - de leon is possibly the most boring fight recorded

nelson doing south pacific crab impressions (with his arms up to his face circuling carlos for the first few round until he couldnt be bothered)
and de leon walking foreward and then move back........ now for a starter round this sounds ok but they landed betwen them 6 punches throwing a whopping...get ready for this 20 punches.:yikes


and repeat this for 12 rounds no man wanted the fight. real waste of time.

the entertainer as a ring name....:fire

 

Hagler sure never had any problems with Lee. Larry Hazzard, now chief commissioner of the New Jersey commission and the referee when Hagler squared off against Lee, said after the fight. It was the closest I've ever seen to death in the ring. Speaking about Hagler's furious assualt, and the need to step in and halt proceedings. Exaggeration overboard a bit. Hagler and Hearns were scheduled to square off in May 1982, but Hearns had to pull out with a hand injury. Broken pinky to be precise. The Lee fight was the turn of the year, early 1982. Not sure if the hand injury was geniune, or as stated above, Steward and Hearns thought biding their time more was a winner.

 

The pinky wasn't genuine for sure Robbi. I see you've really gone out and expanded your knowledge, or are now getting more involved. Good stuff.

 

JT. Don't tell me you have ever doubted my knowledge lol. Because i certainly aint doubted yours. Getting involved more for sure. Just not a regular on here daily like yourself. My knowlege on the fight game is solid enough in my opinion. Not an expert who knows everything, but nobody knows everything. Some know more than others though, it must be said. Looks like our debate about Foremans chin against Ali has done me no favours .

 

Hagler clearly struggled with Duran over 15 rounds. Duran got into Hagler's head before the fight, and obviously during it with his cute defensive strategy, which nobody expected. Some members of the press went as far to say, Hagler was intimidated. Not too sure about being intimidated, but probably the whole superfight occassion made Hagler nervous and edgey. This was the biggest money spinner of his career up until the Hearns showdown.

Caveman Lee was a journeyman, who Hagler happened to inilate. If he done the same destruction on Duran, then you could say he had an unforgettable win during the first 5 years of his reign against a marquee opponent. But in my opinion he never. Sibson and Roldan were arguably his best wins. That debate sure went out the window on April 15th, 1985.

 

Holmes isn't a top ten heavy

Lewis is a slower version of Holmes with a worse set of whiskers

Tommy Morrisson would of beat Ray Mercer if he hadn't got stuck in the ropes

Francois Botha is an under rated fighter

David Tua is an overrated fighter

Doing away with 15 round fights changed the sport for the worse

Judges should have to either be ex referees or judge their way from amateur ranks to professional ranks. Ending with the most competent judging championship fights.

Women shouldn't judge or ref men's fights.

They should have a different ring girl for each round of the main event and show them between rounds during PPV events.

Tyson could of been the P4P all time greatest if he wasn't such a **** up

Tyson should of been suspended forever when he bit off Holyfields Ear. For the good of the sport.

And Finally. Roy Jones in his prime was the best p4p of all time. But he is an arrogant *******.

 

That sure is the strangest opinion on this thread, well one of them.


Chavez had aged too much at this point in his career to deal with De La Hoya's boxing ability at distance. The old legs could not get that speed in them to close the distance.

The only time De La Hoya had any trouble whatsoever with Chavez was during the rematch when strategy tricked him. Instead of constantly coming forward hunting, Chavez stood off a bit and outjabbed De La Hoya during some of the early rounds. A right hand from Chavez landed from the outside at the end of the 2nd round, which almost turned De La Hoya 90 degrees.

De La Hoya did begin to pop off those stinging jabs, and 3-4 punch combos which Chavez never matched, especially during the 5th and 6th rounds. The 7th round was crucial momment as Chavez got inside and began to trade furiously with De La Hoya on equal terms throughout the round. Tiredness eventually took it toll on Chavez during the 8th, as De La Hoya clearly outpunched him three to one during the exchanges, with a monster left uppercut the damaging blow on the bell, resulting in Chavez retiring on his stool.

De La Hoya's strategy was perfect when they first squared off, he was clearly focused and intent on not letting Chavez get anywhere near him. Jab, jab, lead right hand, combination, then away again. Never allowing Chavez get set to mount any attacks. De La Hoya accomplished this during periods of their rematch, but only in spurts.


De La Hoya's strategy for the rematch was inconsistent and all over the place, however the same can't be said when they first fought as it was perfect.

 

I had Duran up 67-66 on SRL in Duran-SRL II. Howard Cosell (I think it was Cosell) was riding SRL hard. I wasn't fooled, I thought Duran won the first two rounds, SRL won the next two rounds, and Duran took two out of the next three. SRL wasn't badly outclassing Duran like people would like to have you believe.