What are your strangest boxing opinions?

Firpo was robbed.

Tszyu is the greatest 140 pounder but he still underachieved, his boxing went backwards in some ways after his amateur days.

Wladimir is 'punch shy'.

Lennox is the third greatest heavy of all time.

Foreman could have beaten Ali on more neutral ground with less distractions.

Tua is overrated and underrated, the guy that KO'ed Moorer and Ruiz is overrated, the guy that went to war with Ike is underrated.

A lot of fight fans suck (too bloodthirsty and disrespectful).

Prime Tyson is overrated by fan boys, seeing Wlad in action now reminds me of that. Extraordinarily dominant with average/overmatched opposition.

 

Somehow I knew you would post this:-(

 

LaMotta won at least 2 of his fights against SRR and in his prime would give any middleweight or light-heavy a hell of a rough night.

A prime Ali beats a prime Joe Frazier every time.

Joe louis would beat all of the current beltholders on the same night.

 

1. If the ref asked Meldrick Taylor a question, and he failed to respond, then the stoppage against Chavez was legit regardless of how much time was left on the clock.

2. Jack Dempsey is astonsihingly overrated. Astonishingly. He almost certainly loaded the gloves against Willard. Wills was the real champ.

3. Max Schmeling was a great heavyweight. He should be recognized as a two time champion, becauuse he should have got the shot against Braddock, and Braddock should have been stripped for non-defense.

4. Rocky Marciano had some of the best defenses at heavyweight, not some of the worst. Certainly better than Joe Luis'.

5. Jack Johnson should be derrided has having drawn the color line, just like any white fighter.

6.The real title holders of that era were the black fighters., with the possible exception of Jeffries who beat the best black fighters on the way up.

7. Tommy Hearns is 2 and 0 against Leonard. The first fight was a quick stoppage in which he was ahead on points, and the second an outright screwjob.

8. Salvador Sanchez should be recognized as a top twenty ATG guy just for his wins over Gomez and Nelson, who went on to be great. Wins against Laporte, Lopez etc. don't hurt either.


9. We should alter records so that they have asterisks on every one. It should be officially noted that eveyone knows that Whitiker beat Chavez, Fenech beat Nelson, etc. etc. It should at the very least be noted in some officail capacity that some important fights are highly disputed.

10. I like public scoring.

11. It it could be proven that headgear would help reduce brain damage, I would have no problem with the pros wearing it. Those guys fight for our entertainment- lets give them evey possible chance.

12. Ezzard Charles is a top ten PfP guy. He is a middleweight who thrice defeated Archie Moore, lifted the heavyweight belt, got a win over Joe Luis, and gave Marciano hs toughest fights. Incredible.

 

Rocky Marciano would kill any cruiserweight if he was around today.

 

Some interesting ones there Cachi:good , can't say I agree with the Dempsey one though

 

Strange no. ******ed yes.

 

I overstated the Demspey stuff. We are kind of airing our grievences here, so I ran with it.

 

Cachibatches, why do you refer to Joe Louis as Joe LUIS? (It's not a typo; you've done it before several times. Just curious...

Some of mine:

1) Lennox Lewis demolishes Joe Louis. (Bad style matchup)

2) Tyson had the most nautral talent of all the heavyeight champs.

3) Roy Jones at 160 beats 99% of middleweights in history.

4) Jack Johnson lost fair and square to Willard. There was no fix.

5) Jake Lamotta is very overrated.

6) Pernell Whitaker beats Roberto Duran 9/10 at 135

7) Frank Bruno actually had a good chin.

8) It is fortunate no film of Greb exists. His legacy has benefitted from this.

9) Jack Johnson was a bum. (Yeah, a bum.)

10) Ezzard Charles was the best 175 fighter ever.

11) The cruiserwieight division sucks and always has.

12) Naseem Hamed is very overrated, and is no ATG featherweight.

13) A points shutout is more conclusive than a devastating KO.

14) 70's Foreman is horribly overrated.

15) In the future, US heavyweights will not be a factor in the division.

16) Riddick Bowe would beat 95% of ATG heavyweights.

17) Holmes outboxes prime Ali.

18) SRL beats Henry Armstrong every day of the week at welter.

19) So does Hearns.

20) Steele was perfectly justified in stopping Taylor's fight with Chavez.

 

i agree with #13. A KO can be pure luck, but a points shutout shows who really is the better fighter.

 

That just shows that you are human, and do not want to see any boxer die by taking one punch too many.

 

Because I can't spell. I apologize. I am constantly being chastized at work for this. Ironically, Joe Luis...er...Luois...er...Louis is my favorite at heavyweight. The fights with Schemling capture my imagination better than anything Ali did.

You have some really good ones on there, a couple of which (Ezzard Charles and Steele) agree with mine. I almost said Lamotta was overrated, and a couple of them, like Naseem, I would have thought would go without saying.

But I can't stand Riddick Bowe, and will not conceade that whether it is true or not.

 

Oh. I thought spelling it that way had some sort of deeper meaning.

 

Foreman was only 2 1/2 pounds heavier when he fought Ali then when he fought Frazier and 4 3/4 pounds LESS then when he fought Ken Norton.

 

David Haye would KO Maricano early