What are your thoughts on Rungvisai's destruction of Gonzalez

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't usually pay much attention to anything below 122, but I will occasionally freshen up on the elites of the Strawweights, Flyweights and Bantamweights.

    At first glance after watching that fight your jaw is just on the floor. Because Jesus Christ, the guy is just absolutely flattening a p4p guy. It's quite possible that Rungvisai just ended his career and wrecked him mentally. A guy on that level used to being the one giving the ass kickings, having to deal with the psychological effects of a guy just beating the **** out of him may never recover mentally.

    But how much did the size difference play a part? Rungvisai to me looked like the significantly bigger and stronger man. And Roman Gonzalez was a pressure fighter who relied on his size, power and aggression to overwhelm the opponent. But at 115 pounds he did not have the size. Gonzalez was already looking undersized at 112 let alone 115. 108 seemed to be his optimal weight class.

    Gonzalez seemed a pretty tough task at 108 and looked legitimately the #1 p4p along with Andre Ward. But at the higher weights his aura wore off.
     
  2. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree. The size was too much and Ringvisi is a mini tank who has some serious power and a granite chin. Not a good combination. Chocolotito is done at that weight. Needs to go back down and stay in his lane.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    As someone who called it the first time they fought and the second time, because I was a huge fan of Sor Rungviasi before they fought and I knew what a beast he was, I wasn't surprised in the least.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes the guy is a beast. He just kept throwing these massive punches. He's like a midget sized tank.
     
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  5. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Much credit should be given to Gonzalez for challenging himself and daring to be great. Unfortunately the size and weight was just too much for him to overcome. Rungvisai would be koed brutally if he jumped up as many weight classes
     
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  6. CST80

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    Actually he has, Sor Rungvisai began his career at 108. He just happened to jump up to 115 in his next match and stayed there the rest of his career. That beuing said, I think Sor Rungvisai could potentially be a force at 118, although 112 I think is a bridge too far.
     
  7. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Gonzalez went up a little too far in weight, and ran into a very tough guy with heavy hands and deceptive skill. Give him credit.
     
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  8. titanic

    titanic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Inoue saw this 2 fights that's why he ran and ducked SSR
     
  9. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stopped reading there.
     
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  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    SSR was more than welcome to join WBSS, where the biggest money is at below 126 lbs... possibly ever. He chose to tune-up in Thailand instead.
     
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  11. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Combination of all of the above. Gonzalez was past his prime and above his peak weight. Sor Rungvisai is a beast and better than previously given credit for. A physically strong fighter who is huge at the weight is a stylistic nightmare for a smaller pressure fighter moving up in weight. Psychologically Gonzalez struggled to cope with his first loss and didn't seem to be mentally there for the second fight.
     
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  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    115 is way better than 118.
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps was until 2018, Cuadras is off the rails, Roman G is past his best, it's clearly the WBSS where the next 18 months of attention and money will be at.

    The op has az unintentional point tho: he/she like many, doesn't follow below 126 cause of the many divisions every 1,2 kgs or so, I drink that in pints every half hour bro!

    Boxing could easily do with 110-minimum, 115-fly, 120-bantam, 125-feather and the rest upwards intact, imagine the level op competitions and tournaments then!
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    I am fine with 105, 112, 118, 126 and so on.
    There are some really small guys who just wont be able to compete at 112. Most guys at 115 can easily move up to 118, and the majority of them came from 112 anyways.
    These little dudes sometimes have tuneup fights multiple weigh classes above their own.

    118 most likely will have the money, but for Sor Rungivsai 115 might be the better option. Seems like Sor Rungvisai will continue to fight on HBO and he has some good options there. Estrada rematch is highly anticipated, Nietes is moving to 115, Yafai and Ancajas are making noise.
     
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  15. BigBone

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    Nah 115's good, and 118's good, but that's once in a generation loaded, and a pity they're separated by 3 lbs when they could be one talent pool.

    Not much elite between 105, 108 and 112 to be honest, 122 ain't hot water either. These little divisions would improve opposition and marketability vastly if it they were split every 5 lbs. So add 105: 20 lbs would still cover 5 divisions where CW alone covers 25.

    We have 7 divisions up to 126 today, 4 major belts and, super belts, silver belts and interim belts, about 50 ppl. could claim himself world champion, and that's impossible to sell to a large audience.
     
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