What are your thoughts UFC's Dana White into boxing business?

Jon Jones failed the in competition test taken the week of the fight. Results came back post fight. Same with Brock although Brock's reentry to the sport was sketchy as hell IIRC. The USADA has caught and suspended so many fighters it's hard to say they haven't done a lot to clean up the sport. Drug tests aren't magic, the results take time to process. But it hurts an MMA fighters legacy just the same as it does in boxing.

If you think the UFC is style over substance you are insane. The champion almost always fights a top 3 guy in his division with none of boxing's "let it marinate" nonsense.

 

Rare exceptions do happen like Bisping and McGregor, who seem to do whatever they want.
But then you always get the next best thing as Aldo vs Holloway and Romero vs Whitaker.
They constantly match up the best vs the best, with a few money fights taking place from time to time.
But you never have a champ who has yet to face a top 10 contender, as is the case with Bivol in boxing.(and there are others)

 

I never called the competition fighting one another style over substance. I mean UFC, is style over substance. Like do I want to see athletes getting kneed in the face, do I think that is a sport. No, I don't. I like boxing to watch 2 elite athletes test their elite skills against one another. In UFC, with some many things to master you get average wrestlers with goodish boxing skills knocking out Judu masters. Who gives a ****, really?!"?!?

 

Because back in the early days of humanity a fight was the only sport to be had. Not a boxing match, not a soccer game, a fight. MMA is it's own specific skill, there are things in MMA you will not see in boxing or wrestling or Muay Thai. The UFC is full of guys who are the best at it. The best fighters. Not the best boxers, not the best Judo guys, but the best damned unarmed fighters in the world. That is why I give a ****.

 

Nonsense.

I can't wait to see Dustin Nichols vs a flyweight over 30 rounds!

 

I wish I could give you 10 Likes.

I love good writing.

 

As a fan of UFC I have no issue with it at all.

My background: is not just boxing (sparring), I also
took judo so I've always been a fan of MMA. I'm not
a boxing snob like it seems some are on here. I
have no problem with a Dana bringing a new slant to
boxing (as long as he pays appropriately)

 

We're not in the early days of humanity the last time I checked. Also if you're talking about the best unarmed people in the world. They don't compete in sports, they are trained killers in elite units who know how to take a man down and make him stay down permanently. Like if an elite SAS man was left in a room with Jon Jones and you told them only one of them leaves the room, I know where my money is going on, its not the trained fighter, its the trained killer.

UFC is like the WWE, its fake outside of the ring but very legit in it. I would prefer the WWE crap to stay out of real sports. Just my preference.

 

It really depends on how they operate in boxing. If they treat boxing like they do MMA where they promote themselves as having the very best at any given moment, do not allow their fighters to fight outside of the promotion, and then when they buy up a new promotion whose fighters tend to get belts making the whole thing a big counterfeit ****le. Then I won't watch anymore of their boxing then I do their MMA. When you're constantly claiming supremacy, protect your fighters from outside fighters, then most of your belts change hands when you buy out new orgs and that protection goes away. It means they're good at slowing down top vs top competition and selling counterfeits. Nothing boxing needs at the moment.

We don't need no Brocks, Rondas, or McGregors. We don't need any situations like what happen right after Zuffa bought Pride or Strikeforce. We got plenty of counterfeits and plenty of promotions that don't work well together. We do not need one whose explicit purpose is to grow counterfeits by not working with other promotions.

 

Truly one of the most entertaning posts I've ever read.

 

Im not a fan to be honest but you cant deny they match the best against the best.

 

The greatest post i have read on here

 

Sure I can. Were the UFC champions who were dethroned by Pride fighters after the UFC bought Pride the best when the UFC and Pride were separated and the UFC not Pride protected their fighters from outside competition?

Was Brock the best? Did he fight the best? Seems like Strikeforce actually scouted the best HW talent from the 08ish era. Overeem did beat the **** outta him easy like.

How about the MWs? How many year was Luke a SF fighter. Who was champion in he UFC during those years? How can you say Luke wasn't the best in the era when he became lineal?

LHW, Liddel was so badass he lost in Pride in one of the few UFC crossover events then after UFC bought pride Pride champion Rampage became UFC champion. Clearly Pride had the better roster.

Benson, Pettis, and Eddie weren't UFC fighters, then they became UFC fighters, and the UFC guys who were for sure the best the whole time those three were active fighters all lost to them....but no worries those guys were better for realsies than the LW trio they just got old and past it as soon as the UFC bought contracts is all.

 

I never disputed that, at all.

 

Dana White will hook up with Haymon