What atgs beat a prime mayweather 130-140

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  1. beat down

    beat down Active Member Full Member

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  2. 10oz

    10oz Member Full Member

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    armstrong or pea thts it imo. duran get outboxed so would chavez. oscar no way, shane no way. pryor aint as good as pac n pac would get ud'd allday long.
     
  3. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    DLH
    Duran
    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Leonard
    Chavez
    Mosely
     
  4. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    The great Azumah Nelson and PBF would be a great fight. Would love to see PBF against Don Curry, Marlon Starling, Simon Brown, Tito Trinidad, Hearns, Duran, the great Benny Leonard, both Sugar Rays and Pernell Whittaker. Yes PBF is that good to be classed with such great and historic fighters not to forget the magnificent Julio Cesar Chavez.
     
  5. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    stylewise I think Mosley would always have lost to floyd, too imprecise and jittery when things don't go his way.

    I think chavez is TOO SLOW. He had everything but speed.

    Maybe Duran but Floyd might be able to pull of the extreme movement he showed against Baldomir and JMM, so I'm not confident of that.

    PRYOR is the stylistic nightmare for Floyd: no room, no breaks, good head movement, whole lot of pressure, and really fast and fairly hard hitting too from unusual angles.

    Leonard was never 140 pounds professionally, was he?

    Floyd is definitely one of the GOAT at 130-140. Maybe Pac and Armstrong, but Pac hasn't looked great against backward movers, though he hasn't lost rounds. And I haven't seen enough of Armstrong to make a judgement but just on paper he sounds dangerous.
     
  6. valdezjp

    valdezjp Member Full Member

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    Whittaker and Duran... Dont know about whip, but competitive...
     
  7. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I kinda disagree with Floyd being more dangerous when he was more offensive in his younger days I believe its the opposite. He was always defensive even in the Corrales fight he was countering Chico not exactly going toe to toe. Being more defensive means less mistakes and makes his opponents confused thinking Floyds not willing to engage. I think Floyd had a good chance of beating any 140lber in history. 140lbs tho is a much younger division tho. 147 Floyd would draw or lose to hall of famers in their prime Oscar, Mosley, Forrest, Curry, and lose with ATG WWs like Gavilan, Robinson, Hearns, and Leonard. The best version of Duran, the one that beat SRL, definitely wont let Floyd fight in his zone.
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    Chavez is like Castillo on steroids and with more skills. And even the 2nd fight Floyd only beat Castillo by 2 points... So how is he gonna beat Chavez at 135? no way.
     
  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm certain to be forgetting many.

    130

    Favoured: Julio Cesar Chavez

    50/50: Kid Chocolate, Azumah Nelson, Hector Camacho

    Dark Horse: Tyrone Everett, Alexis Arguello (15 rounds)

    135

    Favoured: Roberto Duran, Pernell Whitaker, Lou Ambers, Carlos Ortiz, Rodolfo Gonzalez, Julio Cesar Chavez, Henry Armstrong, Jose Napoles

    50/50: Tony Canzoneri, Barney Ross, Ismael Laguna, Ken Buchanan

    Dark Horse: Sammy Angott, Beau Jack, Bob Montgomery, Esteban De Jesus

    140

    Favoured: Julio Cesar Chavez, Duilio Loi, Eddie Perkins, Jose Napoles, Carlos Ortiz, Aaron Pryor, Wilfred Benitez

    50/50: Oscar De La Hoya, Barney Ross, Tippy Larkin, Buddy McGirt

    Dark Horse: Kostya Tszyu, Meldrick Taylor
     
  10. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Remember what Castillo did? Duran and Chavez do that, but harder and better. Floyd would get wrecked.
     
  11. Relentless

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    floyd had no skills, none.
     
  12. Fan88

    Fan88 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Duran outmans him.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Armstrong
    Duran
    Whitaker
    Chavez

    All beat Floyd
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    I agree that Chavez beats Mayweather at 135 but c`mon, try calling it like it is, you seriously gonna tell me the judges got it spot on calling Floyd a 2 point winner in the 2nd Castillo fight ????

    Floyd beat Castillo by more than that, judges are infamous for being wrong A LOT... this is one of those occassions... they got the winner correct but the margin wrong.