What attributes does Loma have over Usyk?

Against who ? Usyk only fought one skilled guy at CW(at world level) and he had close fight. He could not adapt in that fight, I wonder why.


Usyk would not be undisputed, if not luck. (World Boxing Super Series)

Loma is unlucky. Somehow Usyk had neutral judges against AJ, but Loma had everything against him all the time.

 

You had to be kidding me.
The whole CW division was insanely stacked.
Firstable Glowacki was top notch opponent, and unbeaten when Usyk fought him, and he schooled him, like 12-0.
Next Mchunu was very tricky opponent, that everyone looks bad against him. Usyk schooled him and stopped him.
Then Usyk schooled unbeaten Hunter.
Then the WBSS, Usyk schooled and stopped Huck.
Beat an absolutely beast in his absolutely prime - Briedis, who was again unbeaten. Briedis also was the ruler of the division after Usyk moved up, for the next 3-4 years. And even old Briedis beat up badly Opetaia, and i though he won that fight as well.
Then we have Gassiev, another unbeaten monster, and of the hardest hitter in any given division, who KO the other monster at that time Dorticos, who was also unbeaten. Usyk 12-0 Gassiev, and make him looks ordinary, and this was a fight, everyone though it was 50-50.
And then Usyk KO Bellew, who was on great run, and in his absolutely prime.
And Usyk did this in a consecutive fights in their backyard.
Then absolutely school the best HW in the world at that time, 3 belt Champion - AJ.
And i don't give a hot crap what anyone said about AJ.
The reality is Usyk was the heavy underdog going into AJ match, and most people though AJ would win easy and KO Usyk.

You are judging the quality of the opponents at the time you face them, not 5 years later or so, when they are shot to bits or so.
Usyk fought everyone in their hometown, and at their all time best - facts. He beats them

And no Usyk was not lucky, he was just miles better, and did so much better than his opponents, he left the judges with no choice, but like it or not, to score the fights for him.

And you are going very low, calling AJ judges or some of the other fights Usyk was with neutral judges.
He lost exactly 3 rounds against AJ in both fight, yet the judges had it way closer in the first one, and they try to robbed him hard in the second one.
Same for Chisora, who won exactly 2 rounds, yet 2 of the judges had it 115-113, which was b.c.

While i believe Loma was unlucky in the Haney and Salido fight, as Salido should have been DQ, and you can still make a case for Loma DQ. And i though he won a close fight against Haney. Loma almost always mess up in the final round, and not give enough.
And Usyk finish every single fight super strong, and steal the shows.
The big difference between Loma and Usyk.
And i can counter you everytime of the day, where was Loma ring IQ, against Salido, and how much time he needed to adjust? How many rounds Loma needed to adjust against Lopez exactly?

 

Not skilled. sorry.

All the fighters you just named are good, but not world level skilled. apart from Briedis, who Usyk barely beat. and He never adapt in that fight.

Stop trying to make Usyk like he is god of boxing. he is lucky son of a ***** with good skills and great stamina.

 

Sorry, but to become a Champion, and especially against a champion like Huck, you have to be skilled.
And Usyk toys with him.
And going by your logic, who the hell is world level skilled?
All this guys were unbeaten, in their absolutely prime, and on top of that, they WERE Champions. So sorry, but i completely disagree with you.

And sorry to break it down to you, but Usyk won the Briedis fight, so saying barely or not barely, doesn't matter.
He beats him. And if Usyk did not adapt in that fight, he would have lost it, simply ....

And Gassiev was/still is, though he was very inactive for various injuries, like Covid, hard injuries and so, insanely skilled fighter. World class for sure. At least in the CW, yet to see what he can do in HW.

You can dig as much as you like, and i can do the same for Loma, doesn't change the fact.
Usyk is still unbeaten, and this is due to his high IQ, and knowing where he can take a break, and when he needs to put his foot on the gas.

 

Briedis was at that weight, nobody else. Others were good, but not world level, sadly.

You said Usyk adapt to every fight and It was a respond. that fight Usyk was not that good, because of the skilled opponent.

You started that by saying Loma did not adapt to Lopez early. Than I said same about Usyk and suddenly you are in denial.

 

I will ask again, who exactly is skilled at your own mind? Going into CW and HW division? Based on what exactly? On your criteria, cause you just don't want to give Usyk his props.
Gassiev is heavily skilled fighter by any stats out there. Great boxer, incredible power, good defense, very good hand speed. Everything can be seen vs Dorticos.
Yet Usyk schooled him.

You are saying that Briedis is the only "world class" or skilled fighter, and yet you still trying to nick pick Usyk win, even though Usyk win in Latvia. So what it is it then? You can't have it both. Aka Briedis top level, and then Usyk not looking good, when he win that fight.

What denial buddy?
Specifically for Briedis fight, Briedis was lunging and pushing forward, Usyk adapt straight away, and start throwing and landing uppercuts.

And going by your "skilled" suggestion. I can say that Loma hasn't fought a world class boxer, yet he had 3 loses on his record ....
Lopez is far from a world class in my opinion.
Was Salido world class, when he fought Loma ?
Is Haney world class?

You see it's very easy to dig and comes out with some s****.
And i didn't start anything.
You are knocking on Usyk for quite some time, for literally no reason, other than religious and stuffs outside the ring.
The only ridiculous statement thrown in here was by you, saying that Usyk success was somehow lucky, and not do to his work.
Also that he somehow gets nautral judging, which is clearly untrue, as they were trying to screw him for quite some time with b.c. scoring, way closer, than reality is.
Again, he just finish his fights on a high level, and they just can't robbed him, without being way too obvious.
Which is not the case with Loma.
And i have never said a bad word for Loma, and i have always like him. But he should have known better, and finish the fight strong, and specifically the 12 round.

 

nope, Usyk had close fight in only world level skilled boxer that he faced. end of the story. say that is true and move on.


Usyk was knocked down by Beterbiev two times, who is at least 20 pounds lighter than him and Gassiev could not even hurt Usyk. Why ?

 

The Briedis fight was not a real victory, it was a draw made a present as a victory.

 

Ahahahahha i debunked every single point you try to make on Usyk, and nit picking. And can counter everything by saying the same or worse for Loma.
And again World Class word for you, me and the rest can mean something completely different.
And again calling legendary World Champions not skilled is fun, as well as Gassiev not being skilled.

But that's your take, and i'm not here to change your view.

As far as Beterbiev and the amateurs, there is a thing called weight classes. And Beterbiev is the hardest puncher P4P.
And it's funny though, you forget to mention that Usyk won both of this fights, and after he gets up, and even the KD, he still won the rounds. He wasn't hurt at all.
And the KD was to the body, both time on the side, close to the back. Usyk took a knee in their second fight, and he gets up and won the round easily after that. The second one KD in their third match, where Usyk still won the round and the bout, Usyk didn't even drop down, he turn his back, and while he was counted, that was illegal shot and Beterbiev was penalized and taken a point away.
Everyone can see the fights on Youtube ....

But keep going, you are doing exactly what i'm saying, trying to nit picking Usyk.
What's next, we will look at Usyk bouts, when he was 18 ? Or his street fights?

 

Only punching power would not give you what Beterbiev has.

Usyk would have a lot of close fights and even lose some of them, if he was fighting at LHW and lower.

You just don't understand that lower weight classes are far more skilled than CW and HW. Usyk is skilled for that weight, but not P4P skilled like Loma and Bud for example.

 

He`s a lightweight!

 

Lopez is more skilled than all the heavyweight Usyk has fought.

 

Don't try - the myth buster is here with the full force of his twice higher than 2-brain cells fool's potential.

 

Are seriously saying Beterbiev is more skilled than Usyk? Who the hell has Beterbiev fought that is more skilled than Usyk? Lighter weights are just faster not more skilled.

 

Did i say Beterbiev has only punching power? No i say he is one of the hardest hitter P4P, probably the hardest one to be fair. And this is not a knock on him, neither that this is all he has, which is clearly untrue.

As far as the small guys i completely disagree, but it's not the topic for it, neither want to waste time on it.

Saying Usyk is not that skilled P4P is the biggest joke i have heard on here, when Usyk is P4P number 1 fighter in the World currently, and has been for quite some time. And he is literally top 10, since he turned Pro ....

BTW Usyk at 200 pounds and 220 is throwing most punches and have more cardio then 99% of the so call "skilled" lower division fighters. But i guess Legendary cardio, and pace is not a skill for you.

Anyway i'm stopping here, cause i always like you as a poster, and don't want you to stretch with nonsenses like that, simply cause you don't like Usyk action outside of the ring, and knocking his performance based on that.