What boxer deserves Ward's #2 P4P ratiing more than Ward?

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  1. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly but theres less points to be gained at the lower weights hence why Gonzalez and Rigo arent on it

    however Garcia has beaten a lot of fighters who had a lot of points eg Lucas,Khan,Judah,Holt ,Morales

    most of Stevensons ponts came from his first round ko of Dawson
     
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  2. GGGIsABum

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    He didn't Receive P4P #2 for beating Froch.
    He received it for beating ALL of the top SMWs (Froch, Kessler, AA, Bika) and how easily he beat them.
    Personalty, I beleive Ward benefited by the overhyping of both Kessler and AA, but that's not his fault. Froch benefited from beating the over hyped Bute, and that wasn't his fault either.
     
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  3. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I nominate Roman Gonzalez best resent resume of any P4P fighter a lot of skills I think the little guy should get some shine
     
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  4. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward was actually around number 5 on the p4p list until he beat Dawson, a win which has since lost some of its value considering what Adonis did to him at his natural weight
     
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  5. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look I'm not disputing that Ward has a decent resume and is definitely an elite fighter. He's cleared out his division.

    I'm disputing how long he can go without a meaningful win and still hold the p4p #2 spot. It's been nigh on 3 years since his last great win- we actually don't have a clue how good he is any more. Inactivity can ruin a fighter.

    I'd expect him to still be great, but really, who knows?

    Even with Froch and Kessler (A+ wins), Gonzalez and Pac have better wins.

    I disagree about Kessler being overhyped, if he was, then so is Froch. Don't forget Kessler went on to beat Froch. (AA- yeah, hyped as hell || Bika - Bika has always been on the fringes of top class, a good but not great win)
     
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  6. GGGIsABum

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    No one thinks Foch should get a nomination?

    He definitely deserves it as much a Vlad.
     
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  7. VG_Addict

    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No ****ing way is Stevenson in the top 10, especially not after the Fonfara fight.
     
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  8. GGGIsABum

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    I like Rigondeaux and I believe that he should be in the top 5, but his current fights and opposition just don't warrant it yet.

    I have Marquez P4P higher than Pac and Alvarez doesn't deserve being higher than 10, just making the top 10.
    GGG doesn't belong anywhere near the top 10 list. He hasn't fought anyone. If GGG makes the list than the reason I exclude Rigondeaux is **** and he should make it too above GGG.
     
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  9. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bradley was never #3. He lost to Pacroid the 1st time. Anybody with eyes saw that. How was he #3?
     
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  10. The General

    The General Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he was there or there abouts, and if everyone with eyes know pac won that fight, why did pacman go down in the p4p rankings for it
     
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  11. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    nobody to me, he as a hell of a resume to be undefeated and american afro. hes not getting ggg fight like ggg aint getting mayweather, so at some point he gone have to move to 175. he's blacked balled out of the 168 division smh.
     
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  12. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    pac is #3 he should move into 2nd spot unless he losses to algieri
     
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  13. Hammer Hands

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    Golovkin, *****.
     
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  14. boxingfan474

    boxingfan474 Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquio, after his win against timothy bradley.
     
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  15. The Mongoose

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    He beat Marquez who was sitting pretty high after knocking out Pac.
     
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