What boxer has the best losses?

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  1. Thirdtonunn24

    Thirdtonunn24 Member Full Member

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    As in, what boxer has lost to the best the most?
     
  2. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar De La Hoya has losses to Mayweather, Pacquiao, Hopkins, Trinidad and Mosley. That's hard to top in the modern era.

    Fritzie Zivic might just be the all timer at this. Sugar Ray Robinson, Henry Armstrong, Charley Burley, Lou Ambers, Jake LaMotta, Billy Conn and Beau Jack.

    Rosenbloom also deserves a mention. He lost to Harry Greb, Mickey Walker, Jimmy Slattery, John Henry Lewis, Young Stribling and Jack Delaney.
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yaqui Lopez
     
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  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Joe Grim must be right up there in a pound for pound sense.
     
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  5. Gui Dosnera

    Gui Dosnera Member Full Member

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    In my opinion, Jeff Clarke should always be mencioned in this discussion.
    Loss to Sam Langford, Sam McVey, Joe Jeanette, Harry Wills, Kid Norfolk, Jack Thompson, Battling Jim Johnson, Dixie Kid and to Willie Meehan.
     
  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Joe Louis - Schmeling, Charles, Marciano
     
  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnny Risko, with losses to Tunney, Schmeling, Sharkey, Baer, Loughran, JH Lewis, McTigue, Slattery, Delaney, Walker and Stribling.
     
  8. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Relative to their total number of losses, Tommy Gibbons will be hard to top. He only ever last 5 x times:

    Harry Greb x 2
    Billy Miske DQ
    Jack Dempsey for the HW title - bear in mind Gibbons was a LHW
    Gene Tunney - in Tommy's final contest
     
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  9. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frankie Wallace lost to 12 different HOFers - which I think will be hard to "beat":

    Bob Montgomery x 3
    Sugar Ray Robinson
    Tony Canzoneri
    Lou Ambers x 3
    Jack "Kid" Berg
    Pedro Montanez
    Wesley Ramey
    Benny Bass
    Baby Arizmendi
    Petey Sarron
    Kid Chocolate x 2
    Freddie Miller
     
  10. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shane Mosley has lost to Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright, Miguel Cotto, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Manny Pacquiao, and Canelo. Thats quite the list of name opponents he’s fought.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Love the topic and there’s some interesting lists here.

    But it made me think of an observation someone made to me years ago — boxing is probably the only sport where many are rated by who they lost to more than who they beat. Whether that’s sizing up some current fringe contender or some past great, a lot of the discussion will center around ‘he gave so-and-so a good fightin defeat.’

    Not saying such measuring sticks are wrong, but it’s different than other sports in that regard. You never hear about a tennis player who never won a major in terms of ‘yes but look who he lost to in the quarterfinals each time he was eliminated.’
     
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  12. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Juan Laporte has fought and lost to:
    Salvador Sanchez
    Eusebio Pedroza
    Wilfredo Gomez
    Barry McGuigan
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Azumah Nelson
    Kostya Tszyu

    Holman Williams has fought and lost to:
    Herbert Lewis Hardwick
    Charley Burley
    Eddie Booker
    Lloyd Marshall
    Archie Moore
    Marcel Cerdan
    Jake LaMotta
     
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  13. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Eddie Cotton: Archie Moore, Harold Johnson, Bob Foster, Jose Torres, Mauro Mina (2), Roger Rouse (0-2-1), Wayne Thornton (3), Johnny Persol (1-1), and Irish Bob Murphy. He defeated a lot of guys too! Lots of close decisions.
     
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  14. Marvelous_Iron

    Marvelous_Iron Active Member Full Member

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    Chuvalo

    Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Patterson, Bonavena, Folley, Terrell, Ellis, Mathis
     
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  15. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Fraziers only lost to ATGs.

    Joe’s only losses were against Muhammad Ali and George Foreman while son Marvis, only ever lost to Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson.
     
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