What boxers lift weights?

-There has been limited research for many years now, but still hypothesized and supported through certain physical activities and more strongly through hGH impact on the body

-Your statement implies a linear correlation. Please go back and read what you wrote.

-There are thousands of trainers, both scholastically and industry wide who are half ass morons. About as relevant as most of the certifications out there. Show me your peer reviewed material that is physiologically related and then we can discuss the relevance of your qualifications.

-I understand what power is comprised of, as that is physics 101. Work is comprised of force and distance, so to say mechanical power isn't force is not only flat out wrong, but silly. I think your need to go over again the force/velocity curve and how power applies to it. You seem to be getting your terminology mixed up.

-the fact that you stated that is was theoretical makes my point. No need to try and impress with the personal training vernacular, my stated reference to "genetic limits/ceilings/thresholds" is a common scientific thought. Surely anyone who knew anything about basic physiology wouldn't think that only one set of genes become the limiting factor in such a complex system, but rather the likelihood that the genetic makeup, in it's totality, impacts and establishes a genetic "threshold".

 

Vlad lifts in the high rep range

 

But boxing isn't like other sports. You can learn to take a hit from a safety or lift weights to be a better offensive tackle but you can't learn to take a punch. The sport is lonely and involves high repetition something that can't be taught.

 

Not everything you do causes muscular innervation. If so, please point me to the literature that supports this.

If it's not a theory then what is it; law?!

 

Yeah right, genetics has been shown to have little relevance in which athletes are elite and which aren't. Genetics plays a significant part in the limitations of any given athlete's performance output and likely only gains criticality as full potential is reached and resolution of the genetic limits becomes more apparent.

 

Don't kid yourself, even with knowing how to somewhat protect your body (which is not often) the forces your body endures in upper level football is no joke. If you don't believe me then go to your local school and get some football equipment. Then go into your car, keep your seat belt off, and go onto the road. Get up to about 30 mph and veer off into the first big oak tree you see. See how you feel after you stop. Now go do that about 4 times in a few hours and see how you feel.

Fact is that impacts in pro football take on the magnitude of anywhere from a low G level all the way up to upper 90's even over 100 G of force. The exact numbers are from recollection of the study, but the forces that were occasionally measured were obscene And yes, in boxing you can protect against the force of a punch by rolling with the punch. Keep in mind that the forces generated by a punch are far less than what is endured in football, but it's a rotational force that really makes boxing so dangerous, just like football.

 

I've played nfl,rugby league and it's nothing in comparison to boxing. Nothing.
Competing is fun and I could compete anytime in those sports but boxing is something which competing is not fun when compared to those,getting hit is not fun. You're always competing in nfl and rugby league with another person even in training but boxing only person you are competing with is yourself.

 

also that G force whatever study and hitting target is the target running back at the tackler? or is it a 1 in 1000 blind side tackle that rarely happens over nfl week/season

 

Not denying it, but I find it hard to believe that you have played in the NFL and thought it was only fun. I played collage ball and I often times had a hard time getting out of bed and still have ailments that bother me to this day. The fact is, when your schooling people in boxing or football, its all fun. When you're a 190 lbs receiver running close to full speed and get cracked over the middle, it's not fun.

No matter what you think is fun or sucks, statistic don't lie. The most violent sport (measured by injuries, frequencies and severity) is American football. Taking hits anywhere in the magnitude of even 35g's is NOT fun. Broken ribs, fingers, major structural joint damage, paralyzed, etc is not fun, just like getting KO'd or suffering mental trauma is not fun.

 

Oh man, I don't mean NFL I mean American football. Rugby League is worse when it comes to contact.

Well we are probably different. I find getting tackled by a 115kg ball of muscle something that hurts if I don't see it coming but even then you have a short break to recovery. When I am able to see my guy coming at me,no matter the size, I found it fun as sh1t to try and run him over and if he does use his shoulder and gets me good I still get time to recovery,something which if you take a big shot in boxing you can't call "TIME".

 

Actually the the runner hitting the tackler creates the greatest amount of force. The blind side hit just does more damage because the person being hit is not good position to absorb and displace that force. The body is usually in a less contracted state which allows a more acute application of the force, relative to a person who is in position to absorb and displace the force.

Also, the NFL is nothing like it use to be. Devastating hits on receivers were way more common 20 years ago compared to this powder puff league we have now.

 

I played collage ball with a brit who played rugby and it isn't the same. I'm no expert, but he told me that by rules of the game, there really are not many chances to have collisions like you do in American Football. It's also known that humans will automatically decrease the velocity by which they propel themselves when not wearing any protective gear. Not saying some nuts don't, but no where near the frequency they do in American football.

Like I said, anyone that doubts it, do the experiment that I told you of. Try it even at like 20 mph and see how fun that is. Those types of collisions happen all the time.

 

Union or League? Brit may have described Union.
There was a game of NFL in Sydney once and as few boys had a opener before the NFL game,one of the NFL offensive linemen came in and asked "Where are your pads" which they replied We dont wear anyone, his reponse was "You guys are crazy I wouldn't go out there without protection"

Watch some clips of NRL Best tackles to see what I am getting at,I am in no means saying NFL is soft when I watched LT he was the baddest sob I've seen on a field.

But ye anyway opinions differ..

 

I'm really not sure, but if he was playing collage football with me, it must have been a league where he was in his late teens or like 20. He was maybe like 23 when he played on my team. Honestly, it's different sports and what's hard for one might be easier for another. They are both violent games just like boxing is. My initial point was that boxing doesn't generate as much force as say American football or even rugby, but it's how the force is applied that makes the opponent suffer significant effects from it.

 

Do boxers lift weights at all? We never lift at my gym. We use small weights when doing circuits but heavy lifting never once takes place.