What boxing truths have U refused to accept?

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  1. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like every sport, guys get bigger, faster 'n better, n. Some ol' timers that I've seen train and box -- SRR & Pep -- would standout in any era.
     
  2. MrMagic

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    Obviously Paulie Malignaggi is not going to possess Thomas Hearns-like power, ever.

    That is clear as day, but he can likely work on building a little power.
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That head movement trumps blocks and parries. It is great for "emergencies", but under normal circumstances head movement expends lots of energy and sometimes throws off offense.
     
  4. MrMagic

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    Hmm, I dont know that I agree with that.
    Having sparred people with decent head movement, you can get thuroughly thrown off by it. When you are on an advanced level, not only do you dodge and duck punches, but you set up your own offense and use it to get in position.

    Even slight head movement will take away from powershots and "nudge" off power if you will, making "the money" punches far more elusive.

    It may not trump blocks and parries, but it's far more than an option in "emergencies"
     
  5. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's all Paulie or any other fighter -- amateur or pro -- can do, MM: "work" on it. He won't get faster or hit harder, but he'll feel like he's doin' somethin' positive.

    It's best he reconcile what his abilities are -- boxing, strategy, ring generalship, condition, whatever -- 'n make the most of 'em.
     
  6. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. johnnykoolkid

    johnnykoolkid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yea we do the same at my gym, the only bad thing for me was at first when i would throw combinations with the 5 pound weights i would feel stupid and awkward cause its kinda heavy
     
  8. Bognashavin

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    Hmm I would agree speed is ahrd thing to make noticeable imporvments on, but surely with imporved technique comes improved power. There's a differnce between a wild swing and punch thrown with proper technique and training and practice can change this. I guess if you techniqu is already perfect then you cant train to improve.
    As for reflexes I don't see how they can get any faster, you can improve your stamina so that peak performance can be maintained longer. The sprint example used above just means that you can keep you peak speed longer with training, but your refelxes do not really imporve, you eiother got it or you don't. Any imporvement would have more to do with learning to detect opportuntites, not faster handspeed.
     
  9. john garfield

    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Improving technique may improve punching sharpness, but doubt an increase in power, B. Know a ton of picture punchers who can't knock your hat off

    Agree with your comments about stamina 'n reflexes. Think you're pretty ring savvy to notice many moves are not reflexes but baiting traps.
     
  10. Bognashavin

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    Of course, athleticism will only get you so far, if you can't create or recognise opportunites then you may as well not bother, because your fitness will only get oyu so far, and it is not how fights are won. Knowing how to throw a punch and when to throw a punch are very different.
    Much of the beauty of boxing for me is thinking behind the athleticism, watching fighters adjust and composing themsleves in a way to find a way to win often when they might seem outgunned is just awesome.
    I kinda see what you're saying with regards to power, a sharper punch will have more effect, but is not necessrrily thrown any harder.
     
  11. john garfield

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  12. Azzer85

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    Now we know why Mike lost to Douglas in Tokyo
     
  13. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    *******s refused to accept that pac's footwork is nothing special and can easily be exploited by a pure boxer...
     
  14. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    i was suprised but to play Devil's advocate

    weak legs - if you're hurt perhaps it is harder to get your legs back under you? don't think you could really test that.

    mind set - i would imagine tha no sex and affection could help the fighter get into a more aggressive state, mentally tougher, prepared for more punishment or something to that effect.