What bugs me about the Pacquiao-Marquez criticism

The trilogy is irrelevant
Marquez ktfo Pac in the 4th and ended the rivalry

 

People only started saying he lost the first fight after Mayweather said it in that interview where he went full ***** mode with Brian Kenny. And of course since Mayweather said it they have to repeat it over and over.

 

You need to learn the difference between competitive and close.

All the Marquez Pacquiao fights were competitive. Only the 4th fight where Pacquiao got KTFO was it close.

The majority of journalist who make a living writing or talking about boxing had Marquez winning at least 2 of the first 3 fights.

Just be real is all I ask. Most of us know that Pacquiao got those decisions because in most of these clashes where a popular fighter really loses, as long as he stays competitive, theres a really good chance he's going to get his hands raised.

Trainers like Teddy Atlas and Nazim Richardson have voiced Marquez won all the Pacquiao fights. What trainer or boxing scribe has said that about Manny Pacquiao winning the Marquez fights?????


Popularity, cash cow, media darling, Bob Arum, these are all reasons why a lot of judges are manipulated and have their scorecards filled out beforehand.


Don't let it bother you Tinman. Enjoy the fights.
Watch the first 3 again and enjoy Daddy teaching son!

Watch the 4th fight and watch what happens when Daddy gets mad at son!


:yep

 

Don't go by media scorecards. Media scorecards are littered with scribes like Skip Bayless that dont know anything about boxing.

Got to go by respected journalist that all they cover is boxing.

Boxing trainers are a good barometer as well.


This is Max Kellerman speaking whats really on his mind before he got his gig with the A team at HBO where the upper brass controls what you think and say on the air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93FGqJiEkWo

Most boxing journalist, and trainers were of the same thinking. :deal


" Here's to the idea that history record Juan Manuel Marquez properly, the best featherweight of one of the best featherweight era's ever!"
-Max Kellerman

 

The first fight Pac should have won by a point... The second fight was a draw, but the kd decided that fight.. The third fight was the closest and could have gone either way...

 

That's a good breakdown.... this is easily one of the hardest trilogies to judge, Vasquez vs Marquez 3 was just as difficult.

 

Legendary fights.

 

True sign of a hater/fanboy. Where their favorite guy loses a close decision its becomes the robbery of that decade!atsch

 

I scored the 3rd fight just like Robert Hoyle did. I recall looking after the fight and my scorecard was identicle to his every round.

 

I totally disagree.
I thought the first 3 fights were easy to score.
Juan Manuel Marquez controlled the pace and the temp of each of the fights.
Where most fans get lost is in the thinking you can carryover a knockdown and take it into consideration in subsequent rounds.

Each round must be scored independent of all others, and if you do that, the first three Marquez-Pacquiao fights are not difficult to score.

The hardest to score was the 4th, as it was just see sawing back and forth, both taking turns rocking eachother. Just brutal!

 

Pacquaio should have won the first fight.. the second I felt was a draw 6 rounds a piece.. Pac wins because of the knockdown... I have no problem with a JMM win in the third fight, but he cruised the last 4 rounds much like de la hoya did with trinidad... so it's fair game.

I think in the 4th fight Pacquaio put a shellacking on him... **** en brutal 6 round fight.