What bugs me about the Pacquiao-Marquez criticism

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Mar 19, 2016.


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  1. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    3rd fight was close but CLEAR win for JMM!
     
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  2. dellboi94

    dellboi94 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He lost the 3rd fight, that was clear imo. The first two are open to interpretation and we all know what happened in the 4th.
     
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  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Losing a close fight is part of boxing. **** happens.

    Upset your guy lost a close decision? Tha wouldn't have happened if he had won the fight.

    If Marquez had actually won the fights then there wouldn't be a problem.
     
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  4. Slavic Fighter

    Slavic Fighter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Marquez won all 4 fights
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Everybody has their own interpretation of scoring. The first fight illustrates the different types of scoring. One judge had it 115-110 Marquez, the second judge 113-113 even the third judge 115-110 Pacquiao.

    The first guy who scored it 115-110 for Marquez probably overvalued Marquez's ring generalship and craftiness.

    The third guy who scored it 115-110 for Pacquiao scored it too wide for Pacquiao. And probably overvalued Pacquiao's aggression, big shots and lack of respect for Marquez's power.

    The third guy who scored it even had the best score IMO. You want to reward the aggressor who comes forward, lands power shots and it makes the fight happen. You also want to reward the guy who has his moments countering and making him pay for that aggression.

    Anybody IMO who scores it too wide is ignoring the work of either man and is under-appreciating aggression or countering.
     
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  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93FGqJiEkWo


    Does anyone know of a breakdown like that from a respected boxing scribe or boxing trainer that's making a case for Pacquiao winning the 2nd or 3rd fight??????

    There's several on youtube of scribes or trainers making the case for Marquez, but I've never seen one of a boxing scribe or trainer making the case for Pacquiao.

    I think that speaks volumes.
     
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