What "C LEVEL" Fighter has an IMPRESSIVE RESUME???

By that criteria,Sharmba should be relegated to C level.

He was a legitimate light welter weight champion for about 2 years! He defended his title 5 times and won an IBF interim title afterwards!

The guy was a B fighter.
He beat Tackie,Lovemore N'dou and a number of other decent fighters like Stewart and Phillips.

He ended his career with a record of 57-6 and the only people who beat him were top class,such as Tszyu(x2),Mayweather,Williams(at 147 at the very end of his career),even Leavander and Stevie Johnson were good,solid fighters.

 

Why? Sharmba was the 2nd guy in his divison from 1998-2005 and No1 in 1999. He was always rated above Judah. Is Judah B-?
Sharmba was a solid A-/B+ at his peak (1st Tszyu fight) and undefeated for 11 years except for that loss. You must remember him from his paycheck fights against Mayweather and Williams.

 

What? That logic doesn't work!

Imagine Ustinov (a D level fighter if ever there was one) was maneuvered into a title shot against a very weak titlist (say Monte Barrett or Zuri Lawrence picked up a vacant belt in an eliminator by beating someone equally irrelevant...say, each other) and became champion. He's no longer a D level fighter? Of course he is. He's a D level world champion, and the value of that belt becomes cheapened and stigmatized until it's won and worn by a credible champ.

 

off course fighters can be relegated, same situation with tyson towards the end of his career. once was top level A grade fighter but over the years he got relegated to C or even lower by the time he fought mcbride

 

I went to school with a lot of C level students that probably now have good resumes. Still thick as **** though.

 

I agree. Both of these guys were titlest.

 

Davarly Williamson, Monte Barret (especially if you're crediting losses to A, B fighters)

Micky Ward

 

Manny Pacquiao

 

Can you give me an example of B and B+ level boxers?
Where do you grade Arturo Gatti?

 

I agree too, but not at all for that reason. Do you agree with cubex that Baldomir becoming lineal champ by being in the right place at the right time and fighting the right fight against the right guy makes him any less a C level fighter? We should probably clarify terms and illustrate that grading levels here (A, B, C, D) are based 100% on ability, with no resume consideration - since based on the titular question we are explicitly separating and comparing the two. So it should read "What C Level fighter (based purely on ability) has an impressive resume?"

Mitchell and Phillips, even at their worst, never denigrated to C level IMO. They're B-range guys through and through. Baldomir, on his best night, on the night he became champion, never rose above C+. He was a circumstantial champion - not the "best welterweight in the world" at the time. While actively reigning, he wasn't even near top 20 based on ability.

 

Yeah, but Baldo didn't pick up some vacant strap. He went 7 years without a loss and beat the undisputed champ. He also knocked out Gatti. Gatti had destroyed Damgaard in his previous fight(which also took place at WW). Damgaard was probably a lower B level guy himself. Baldo was no C level fighter.

 

I myself look at it like this

B- = someone who can just about win a title but lose to other title holders in division (Kotelnick, ricardo toress(.
B = Able to deffend there title but eventually lose (amir khan, Junior witter).
B+ Able to win against other champions in division and have few succesful deffenses against good opposition (maybe dominate in best performance e.g (malignanggi)

I would have maybe sed gatti was on a B grade, this is just from the top of my head

 

I agree with Cubex that Baldo wasn't a C class fighter. He holds wins over Clottey, Zab and Gatti he aslo gave the late Forrest a tough fight. A C class fighter would have found a way to lose those fights.

 

Is there like an "official" and accpeted definition for each level of fighter or is this stuff more subjective?

For instance:

A+
A
A-
B+
B
B-
etc.

 

Why are you including fights they lost? :huh: