What can AJ learn from Wilder?

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  1. Leeroy84

    Leeroy84 Member Full Member

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    Aj could learn how to fight cherry pick bums and quack like a duck..... thats if the pbc let wilder teach joshua anything.
     
  2. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    @Dubblechin so you didn’t write this?
     
  3. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    Ah cmon now he was almost knocked out by Harold Sconiers, put down by Dustin Nichols for being a bambi legged idiot. Hurt by Molina and Ortiz. Not faced a notable puncher except for Ortiz who is a decent puncher but we saw the result of that.
     
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  4. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And people have decided he has an iron chin lol.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You left out: He's had 43 professional fights, he's the WBC heavyweight champion, he has 10 successful title defenses, he's undefeated and he's been down once (which occured almost 10 years ago). Fury's been down four times, Ortiz has been down four times, Joshua has been down five times, Povetkin has been down, what, a half-dozen times? Parker, Whyte, Ruiz, Chisora, Pulev ... all have been down. In today's heavyweight environment, iron is a probably correct description. How many heavyweights today have gone almost 10 years since they were dropped? Ali was dropped by Sonny Banks. Does Ali's chin suck, too? The Sconiers fight was about a DECADE AGO. Wilder's fought a lot of guys since he fought Harold Sconiers and NONE of them dropped him. And Wilder got up and floored Sconiers four times and nearly killed him in the same fight. Fighting for 10 years - five of them as WBC champ - and never going down shows you have a chin.instead of fighting Fury and Oritz a couple times, he should've fought Andy Ruiz, got dropped four times, spit out his mouthpiece and quit.

    Try harder.
     
  6. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    And killed Duhaupas. I don't doubt that Ortiz is a puncher but it's not like he's a formidable puncher. He's a pretty good boxer but certainly overrated. As I've said before Kownacki has a better resumé in his short career so far.
     
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  7. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Whyte the REAL Boogeyman Full Member

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    I can pick any guy of the street and teach him how to jab properly and throw a cross in a few months. So what?

    thats not a fundamental base... heck i wouldnt even call that fundamentals...

    Boxing is so much more than throwing a punch... thats why its fricking professional boxing and not amateur boxing or local club boxing or boxing outside a street bar on a Friday night where every tom **** and harry can throw a cross and jab correctly

    Wilder cant win rounds or even come close to because he doesnt have the ability to box just the ability to survive and deliver his money shot kinda like lucas “ive got 36 minutes” brown to land one shot

    so dont sit there and tell me Wilder has a fundamental game anymore than the next person down my local ABC

    Dillian Whyte started late and way less experience then many guys he fought yet he can still win rounds because guess what... he ****ing got taught to box and get points WHILE going for the kill
     
  8. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What are you going on about, you keep asking a question which I’ve answered. Wladimir Klitschko went 12 years without being dropped and was HW champion for 9 of them fighting some big punchers.

    Did he have a good chin? No, he got away with it with his ring IQ in the same way wilder is getting away with it fighting bums.
     
  9. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He dropped Sconiers four times and stopped him. But Wilder was "almost" knocked out? (LOL)

    And are we counting how many times guys got staggered, too?

    How many times has Joshua been on Bambi legs to go along with the five times he's been on the deck in only 23 fights?
     
  10. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    I'd say Parker is the only one who is iron chinned. Just because he's been put down by one of the biggest punches in the division in Whyte's left hook doesnt make it bad. Especially since he recovered so well so quickly. Seems Kownacki can take a big shot too.
     
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  11. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    I think Joshua is a glass chinned robot, I don't rate him and never have, I called a loss to Ruiz myself. I just find people calling Wilder iron chinned laughable. Just because his chin is made of cheddar and not cottage cheese doesn't mean that it's Iron at all.
     
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  12. UKboxingfan

    UKboxingfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly.

    Just because you’ve been down, doesn’t mean you don’t have a chin and just because you haven’t doesn’t mean you do.
     
  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Really?

    How many guys fly in on short notice (24 hours in Duhaupas' case) to take on guy who got busted for taking PEDs (Povetkin) ... and the guy coming in on short notice wins?

    The short-notice guys always lose ... unless they're fighting Joshua. (LOL)
     
  14. ShovelHook

    ShovelHook Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah they might lose but Duhaupas was never KTFO like that before or since. Dude has a great chin and Povetkin bust it.
     
  15. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Parker has an iron chin? Why, because Ruiz didn't knock him down? Ruiz didn't knock down Liakhovich either. I didn't even think Ruiz deserved the decision against Liakhovich.

    Kownacki can take a shot. But, as soon as he gets stopped by Wilder, people will insist he's got a bad chin.

    Just like they do every time Wilder knocks out someone who hasn't been stopped before.
     


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