What can you tell me about Vicente Saldivar?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PhillyPhan69, Feb 23, 2010.


  1. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Posts like these are great, totally giving the thread starter what he needs.

    I think you made a typo at the end though, just swapping Saldivar's name for Jofre.
     
  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah yes, thanks for that! :good
     
  3. teeto

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    No problem. Saldivar is actually one of the fighters i'm embarrassed to have not sat down and studied substantially. I've just read about him in books and seen a bit on youtube. I didn't know there was so much on there, i'm going to get round to that.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    from sports illustrated vault 10-23-67

    If this was to be it for
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    and Howard Winstone, who were responsible for drawing most of the 90,000 cushion-tossers—boxing's fourth largest crowd ever—in the first place. Saldivar is 24 and won the title after 25 fights and 24 wins. In fact, he had fought—and beaten—the Welshman Winstone twice before. What makes him particularly exciting to the Mexicans is his style. As one Mexican sportswriter said minutes before the bout was to begin: "Saldivar must win by the 10th round because he has this tendency to stop thinking after 10. I don't know what it is, but he starts out as a picture boxer. Then the evil spirits seize him, and he becomes a sort of beast and just goes wild without stopping."
    Saldivar had agreed to fight for one million pesos, a national record, and the promoters figured they had the fight of the century. Never mind the fact that featherweights weigh 126 pounds and wear lifts in their shoes. It was everything any country would want. The promoters got together early in the week at an old police headquarters in a huge, hollow building on the outskirts of town to work out the details. The meeting room smacked of countless interrogations over stolen cars. Everyone agreed that if one fighter was knocked out of the ring he would have 10 seconds to get back in. And halfway through the thing, Mexican Boxing Commissioner Luis Spota got up to open a window to let in some fresh air. The window promptly slammed shut and shattered with a hollow tinkle of glass in the courtyard below. Everyone, conscious of symbolism, figured they were in for a hell of a night at the fights.
    The promoters first knocked together a ring: a few handy boards covered with shiny red oilcloth. They sprinkled sawdust and wood chips on top, stretched a canvas over that and everybody got slightly seasick looking at the result. Next they scaled the house from $40 ringside all the way back to four pesos (32�) for seats high up in the bowl, figuring—correctly—that those who would occupy the 32� seats would be so far out of town they couldn't hit anybody down front with anything.
    As early as 2 o'clock last Saturday afternoon traffic began creeping into the stadium—which is also called the Coloso de Santa Ursula—and by fight time the place was full of tension. All week long, Winstone had been ready. He arrived in shape, so confident that he bought an $84 gold wristwatch that figured to weigh about 70 pounds all by itself. For balance and for his other wrist he turned up with a simple gold identification bracelet with his name spelled out on it in chip diamonds.
    Saldivar, who is known as Zurdo de Oro, which translates into something like, "The Lefty of Gold," showed up wearing his customary look of absolute purity. Saldivar is darkly handsome. His hair is cut in a sort of early pompadour, and his face is no more marked than, say, the face of any average guy who has been thrown through a windshield.
    The fight went almost according to the plot: Winstone, who does not believe in trancelike states, started off strong, snapping a left hand that was clearly picked up at an old
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    rummage sale, and winning points. And Saldivar, changing from handsome to savage, went into his trance three rounds early.
    In round 7, while the fans howled their heads off, Saldivar began blasting in with a wild attack, hitting Winstone with flurries that nobody quite believed, fighting alternately out of a combination crouch and upright, leaping, staggering, lurching. In round 9, Saldivar leaned back and hit Winstone so hard he sent drops of his sweat into the fourth row, which is a Mexican all-conference record—and by the 11th round he had completely turned off the world and tuned in Winstone. In the 12th he knocked Winstone down. For the boxing record, the knockdown punch was at least 86 of those fast, golden left hands, and in the next instant Winstone's manager,
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    , sailed a towel into the ring.
    In Saldivar's dressing room afterward there was, above all, emotion. Saldivar announced he was retiring—to consider a movie offer, everyone said—and that he figured Winstone would be his successor as king of all the featherweights. "He didn't hurt me," Saldivar said, "although he opened my left cheek with a tremendous punch." He was suffering what fight people casually refer to as a four-stitcher, and the fight had left his handsome face in ruins. Well, he can always play mini-Brando roles.
    When the fight ended and everybody had stood up and pitched his seat cushion into the ring, the organ suddenly burst into song. The Aztec Stadium was filled with Las Golondrinas (The Swallows), which is
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    's equivalent of Auld Lang Syne and a stunning farewell to Saldivar. A lot of people cried. It is a nice tune at that. Maybe
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    can work it into his act.
     
  5. My2Sense

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    And he was right. The only problem was, the fights with Saldivar had taken too much out of him, and it turned out his reign was very brief.
     
  6. GPater11093

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    was watching some Saldivar today and he has a very cunning little trick.

    From his southpaw stance as he jabs he steps his right foot on the outside of his opponents left allowing his left hand and right hook to be devastating. The jab 'blinds' his opponent from the shift in his feet. Very clever.