What chance do you give Carl Froch against Jermain Taylor?

I give Froch a 40% chance due to Taylor coming off a KO and Frochs power.

 

That didn't stop Pacquiao did it?

 

I put 40%. It depends on which JT shows up.

 

But also keep in mind that ALL 6 of those fights that he arguably lost or won...each fighter was MUCH better than anyone Froch has been in the ring with.

Hopkins, Hopkins, Wright, Ouma, Spinks, Pavlik, Pavlik....

Those guys are in other STRATOSPHERES of every single fighter on Froch's resume....and in 5 of them, you can make as good a case of Jermain winning then you can him losing (I have him 2-2-2...). I see your point in the close fights...but the experience factor is FAR in Jermain's favor...as well as the fact that he holds an advantage in pretty much every category but power.

I give Froch a punchers chance...but only that. Less than 25%.

 

We have to make an effort not to mention Ouma or Spinks(at MW), in stratospheres over anyone. Other than that I agree, I actually think Taylor could take this handly, but because he lacks poise, Froch could also get this... I also assure you Froch has more 1 punch power than Pavlik, who's an accumulation grinder.

 

i am giving him about 35% chance, he always has a chance with his power but i still fancy jermain to pull it off, great fight though

 

Yes, but all boxers need confidence. And Taylor hasn't the best, even if his comp is way better than anything Froch ever faced. Spinks and Ouma were smaller guys. Spinks is highly skilled but is featherfisted, and therefore not a threat to fight. Such a fighter is easier to rumble. Yet he didn't.

It has always been Taylors asset to be the bigger man, when he wasn't he "clearly" lost. I don't think Taylor will do very well at SMW.

I agree with your factors that speaks in favor of Taylor. But you will need to take into account that he is becomning lost in what works for him to win.
Taylor would need to take command - up his workrate, something we haven't seen in a while from him.

 

I see what you mean about the size thing of the opponents...but keep in mind, Spinks entire style is that of a type to make his opponent look bad. Noone just rumbles over him because of this.

Another problem I see is, who has Froch been in their who can really HIT!!!??? Reid is probably the hardest puncher he has faced, and he himself was never really KNOWN as a banger....and Robin at this point of his career should just go down the Prince road and legally change his name to "The Artist Formerly Known as Robin Reid".

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Size thing aside tho, Taylor is going to be the best fighter Froch has ever faced in EVERY ASSET of the game. Most athletic, arguably the biggest puncher (not that Taylor is a KO artist...but), fastest, best reflexes, best footwork (if he stays with how he looked last time vs Pavlik and really does cut out that moving straight back ****), best movement, etc.

If we look at it from the opposite standpoint, Taylor has been in their with fighters who do EVERYTHING better than Froch does (Amsterdam, you know I respect the **** outta your opinion....MOOOOST of the time ...but until Froch does it against a LIVE body, I cant say he is a bigger puncher than Pavlik...that is going a bit far bro).

Experience can be a HUGE thing. Taylor, his last time vs Pavlik looked to have really worked on fundamentals (kept his gloves high on defense, used movement better than he has in a LONG time, didnt move straight back, stayed off of the ropes, etc.)...if that Taylor shows up, he wins big...if a previous version of him does, he may be winning, but he also may be KTFO, hense why I give Froch a "punchers chance".

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I put Froch at 45% mainly because he has a puncher's chance - but to be honest I feel Taylor will school him, as Froch plods in quite slowly with his hands low he'll be getting picked off quite regularly.

He might step up his game and work on his speed in training to counter that, but I still see him as a lumbering super middle who's not quite world level whereas this is familiar territory for JT.

 

I think about 40%.:good

 

Yes, Spinks is very fast, can get in and out fast as well. However a man with high workrate and fast hands could beat him in his prime(Zab Judah) - and convincingly so.

Yes, Froch hasn't been in with a banger, but what does that matter - Taylor isn't one of them. And even if Taylor is greater in those areas you mention, they are not stellar except his athleticism. He does have a very fast left hook, but he almost never uses it with that great speed.

Experience only works well, if you have been able to overcome adversity - I dont think Taylor has done that. He didn't against Wright, he didn't against Pavlik. He comes in with a gameplan and sticks with it. And to me he has lost those 5 out of 6 fights, even if they were close, but I think they were so, because his opponents either were smaller or not great technicians(not that Froch is one as such either).

Taylor did look better in Pavlik II, and he would need to up it even more. Froch hits harder than Pavlik also.

But lets see... Will go watch WC in football now - and will be back later:good

 

i gave 25% just because taylor last fight with pavlik he took some good shots and kept on moving and delivering good shots back and i dont think froch can hit as hard as pavlik i like taylor and hope he can get his career back on track

 

Froch has a 30% chance if he carries his power up in class. If he does he can surprise people. If it turns out he isn't as heavy handed as he has looked against lesser opponents then he could be in for a long night. Its a big step from beating a severely faded Robin Reid to mixing with a fighter with world class pedigree.

 

1 Punch !!

 

The East Midlands SMW champion as a pretty good punchers chance.