What could David Haye have achieved if he fought everyone instead of just chasing k2

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  1. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    Not a bad summary, but I think you're overrating Haye a touch in places.

    As far as the listed fighters in their prime go, I agree with Chagaev being a slight favourite.

    I'd make Byrd a lot more than a slight favourite. Haye is fast and hits hard, but technically isn't on Byrd's level. I think Byrd would comfortably outbox Haye on route to a solid points win in an interesting fight. Byrd would see his Hayemakers coming from a mile away, despite Haye's speed

    No way Adamek would beat Haye. I like Adamek but Haye would stop him

    Arreola is tough and could cause problems but I think Haye could possibly knock him out or at least win on points. If he had the confidence he did going into the Chisora fight, Haye would win it. It's an interesting point that Chisora is a better pressure fighter than Arreola. That might well be true. The evidence suggests he probably is. The Vitali who beat Arreola was better than the one who beat Chisora, but even still- Chisora's win over Helenius is better than anything CA has done, and he's only lost to Fury, VK and Haye. It remains to be seen how good Fury is

    Chambers, I don't know. Chambers is a better boxer than Haye, but offensively doesn't bring much to the table and isn't quite as slick as Byrd was. He does have a great chin, though.

    I'd make a prime Peter favourite against Haye. Peter was crude, but I don't think Haye can hurt him. He's like a rhino. It took a barrage from Wladimir to stop him, and the same with Helenius. That wasn't prime Peter either. I don't think Haye hits as hard as either of those guys and I don't think he's going to sit down on his punches against someone as aggressive and impervious as Peter. I think SP would eventually find him and dispatch him. I realise that's debatable, but I expect we'd see the pot shotting Haye of the Valuev/Klitschko fights, and Peter isn't going to bother trying to box him, and would be willing to take a few shots to land one. Haye would tire
     
  2. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    Wow, just wow. That is shameful :patsch:patsch:patsch

    You don't know **** about boxing.

    Haye could beat all the bums and taxi drivers in this division and maybe even Vitali now. Wlad never unless he lands a lucky shot on that shaky chin
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Number 3, I think. If he didn't fight the Klitschkos, he'd have to sit behind them.
     
  4. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The whole world tunes in to watch Haye when he fights. This isn't an opinion , its a fact. Syndication for his fights is more than any other HW on the planet.
     
  5. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    That's because outside of Germany everyone finds the klitscko's fights the most boring ever and some of the worst to be served up in a title fight
     
  6. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If he fought all of these guys when they were close to their best

    Peter
    Chagaev
    Povetkin
    Adamek
    Chambers
    Thompson
    Solis
    Pulev
    Boytsov
    Helenius
    Gomez
    Kingpin
    Huck
    Arreola

    I suspect he would of lost around 50% of those fights. Those were basically everyone he could have fought at certain times within the time frame he was at HW that were somewhat relevant.
     
  7. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arreola has never been truly relevant.
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Peter maybe.
     
  9. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wouldn't have made near enough money.
     
  10. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well then we can all agree that he fared much better than your boy then.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavMVLi2z58[/ame]

    Notice how he gets knocked down by gushes of air again and again and again and again.........
     
  11. gregy741

    gregy741 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what would he achieve?
    he would get exposed as a hype job,thats why he will not do it
     
  12. moneypaysbills

    moneypaysbills That's Mr moneypaysbills Full Member

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    That list of fat bums and cruiserweights may seem impressive to a klitscko fan, but unless it was Sam Peter before Wlad then that would be worth something and Povetkin would be worth something. Let's not forget he has Valuev who the klitscko's shamelessly ducked having seen what happen when they face someone bigger. #TKO6

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  13. KCD

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    If Valuev is the best of Hayes legacy at heavy then he's certainly HOF bound:lol:

    And also neither Klitschko ducked Valuev, stop making things up to make the chancers resume look half decent.
     
  14. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Then why doesn't he?

    Instead of avoiding any challenging fights he sits in Turkey telling people how great he is and the fool is reluctant to fight anyone.

    People slate Adamek but at least he's fighting regular and against good opposition, way more than the fraud is doing.
     
  15. ElCep

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    He could have achieved as much as the Klitschko's or more if had been an active fighter for an extended period of time. His work at CW and his ability to beat most HW's would have served him well. His record could ultimately have been as good as either Klitschko (even if Haye himself wasn't as good as them), but we are talking about 4-5 years of consistent activity, which we were never going to get from Haye.