What could Patterson have done differently against Liston?

By all means, indulge to your heart's content. You know I'm cool with it.

 

Thanks for the earworm, friend.:wall

 

good post Floyd was a come forward fighter,he couldnt duplicate Machen and box behind the jab,so he would allways be introuble against bigger stronger guys who could hit,you are right about his defence,and his walk he sort of swaggered ,which was not his demeanour at all,I didnt know it was because of one leg being shorter though,thanks for the info.

 

That's okay. I had an entirely unrelated set of nightmares I just woke up from. Nothing related to ESB though.

 

Nothing.

 

Either stay home or sneak a gun into the ring with him......

 

But seriously the best thing he should have done was be extrememly mobile and use his speed to pop in and out ala PBF..Liston would most likely slow down in the 2nd half of the fight and would be a little less dangerous

 

In order to have a chance, Patterson must not be in Liston's punching range. Since he was not an outside fighter, then inside was the only way. He tried inside but was not inside enough. Maybe Floyd just didnt have the strenght and confidence to stay right inside Liston, leaning on him and giving him no room to punch.

 

Stay home on those particular nights......

 

The same could have been said about Morrison vs. Foreman a match up in which I immediately think of when trying to think of how Patterson could have fought him differently.

Lateral Movement, Consistent Jab and flurries could have enabled Floyd to last longer possibly see him to a decision. His bob and weave should stay where it is but as long as he's circling Sonny in a varied pattern it could work.

 

At that particular time, it probably didn't matter; an old friend of mine, an elderly black man I used to work with and who loved boxing said that Patterson was fixated on destroying the Liston superman myth because he had such overwhelming support and respect around the country (and world) so he went out and fought "the people's fight" and disregarded any common sense. When I see both fights again (I try and watch them as little as possible :? ) I see the usually slow starting Floyd more active and aggressive from the get go to a much greater extent here then in most of his fights.

My $0.02

 

Respectfully disagree. With the exception of, perhaps, a couple of fighters, was there ever a HW that was actually BETTER after losing his title? Double Liston throwdowns because he fought the 'people's fight'. Not that he could have beaten Liston. As the resident Patterson 'nuthugger' he took all the post-Liston sluggers on and went the distance. It was he that lost those fights, not because of his opponents. Shoud have went 3-0-0 against Quarry-Quarry-Ellis. I'd give Floyd a great chance against the 70s HW's.As I've always said, had Floyd come along in prime in the 70's he would ha ve been a chisled 205 lb. wreaking machine. Lyle? Norton? Shaver? Don't tell me those guys walk right thru this left-hook monster! He's an ATG. Why do so many continually rag on Patterson?