Yeah, Germany does have a bad rep. Maybe it isn't fair and only a small sample of the fights that occur there, but because of guys like Sven Ottke, and fights like Brewster-Krasniqi and Abraham-Miranda, it does have a pretty bad rep.
The ref stopped the count at nine when Krasniqi was down. He waited until Krasniqi got up. It was ridiculous. Miranda was an idiot, and he was rightfully punished for the headbutt. But the ref allowed the doctor to work on the cut and jaw IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROUND. He didn't suffer that from the headbutt, it was from a punch in the previous round. The same thing happened with the ref allowing Gatti's corner to work on his cut in the middle of the round during Gatti-Hutchinson.
I don't understand. If a guy was hurt due to a headbutt, then they did the right thing by going to the scorecards. That's usually the way it's done.
Robberies are very common in Germany and you can't argue against that. Robberies in the US usually have to do with the judges favoring a fighter with a certain promoter, not a fighter that's from a certain country. In Germany, it's very common that the judges favor German based fighters over everybody else. The worst part about blatant robberies that go on there is that the German fans don't ever have any problems with their fighters losing eleven out of twelve rounds and still winning a unanimous decision.
The Brewster-Krasniqi long count was more blatant. The ref stopped at nine so Krasniqi could get up. The Douglas-Tyson long count was blown out of proportion by that ****face Don King. Miranda really wasn't any dirtier than a lot of other guys I've seen, to be honest. He just sucks at fighting dirty and it's so obvious. The only guys I've seen throw more blatant headbutts were Carlos Maussa against Vivian Harris and Andrew Golota in the rematch against Riddick Bowe. I think most places will have their share of hometown cooking at times, that gives people the impression that it happens all the time, but in reality it's more the exception than the norm.
anyone from america watch michale brodie v willie jorrin or orlando canizales v billy hardy . both took place in england and both times IMO the english fighter won wide on the scorecards, yet the overseas fighter got it.
Honestly Ive seen robberies in every country. Japan has had some shocking decisions, so had Germany and definitely the U.S aswell. Seen them in Thailand, UK, Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, Monaco, Italy and Korea. There have been some pretty bad decisions in Australia also. Its hard to gauge, majority of the time foreign opponants are brought in to lose. So most of the fights are fair wins to the hometown dude, its the robberies you sometimes remember more.
the shutout was a bit stern but Kessler clearly won at least 7 or 8 rounds. Gotta agree that the Siaca fight. Siaca made the fight but essentially his agression was ineffective. Choc didnt do much either though, I had it to Siaca by a point but I wouldnt have been suprised if Choc would have got the nod. As it turned out it went the Manny. Most of the bad decisions you see are the 6 or 8 rounders where a filo or thai gets jobbed. But even then a lot of the time the decision goes to the right guy. The recent Chad Bennet fight is an example of this. Plus I remember a Davey Browne fight, not only in his hometown of Syndey but in his home suburb, where he clearly outboxed the guy but it was scored a draw.
German boxing is corrupt. Robin Reid was warned for hitting Ottke lol. No way Ottke won that fight. Beyer had a couple of very fortunate escapes too.
I have never really seen a rough decision for a foriegn fighter in Australia. Kessler vs Mundine Mikkel clearly won. Siaca vs Mundine Manny Clearly won Pravisani vs Carruthers Aldo clearly won But even though we give fair results we cant seem to draw big fights here yet Tszyu vs Lieja (who isnt a huge name) drew a crowd of 33,000 in Melboure.