what country is most fair to forgian boxers?

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  1. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I for my part like attending shows in the Czech Republic.The Czechs are usually quite fair towards foreign fighters.They almost always applaud a foreign fighter,too-whether he has lost or won.
     
  2. Sweet Pea Pacquiao

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  3. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    While we're in the process of attacking Germany for bad decisions(I apologise German people) I felt Brian Magee was unlucky not to have gotten the decision v Vitali Tsypko . A poor decision imo but not quite a dreadful one .
     
  4. Hawks28

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    no I dont have a torrent. I can assure you it was a brutal decision though. I did find an excellent article from ESB about it. Here are some excerpts:

    "Eric Lucas' first venture into Germany for his title defence against Markus Beyer turned out to be a disaster. The bottom line is that it was a disgrace and why anyone will want to fight over there is beyond me. It was blatant highway robbery. Lucas dominated Beyer in every aspect and the judges saw fit to give the WBC Super Middleweight Title to the challenger."

    "When Beyer was announced the winner, referee Laurence Cole appeared to be in shock that he had to raise the 'losers' hand in victory."

    Here is the full article which details in depth how the fight went down, and the disgraceful decision that followed it:

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-news/EricLucas-MarkusBeyer.php
     
  5. Tom_Tocca

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    If you think of Odo's point having not only fair judges but a fair crowd then I have to say that Italians are worst.

    They always boo the foreign if h wins, even if their own fighter is outclassed or KOed.

    I remember the fight between Vivian Harris and Oktay Urkal in Berlin, Germany. As Harris TKOed Urkal it was just quit for a moment but than as Vivian went from corner to corner the crowd cheered him...
     
  6. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree 100%. From the few fights that I have seen in the phillipines it seems that everyone from the crowd, to the ref to the judges for the most part are very unbiased. The only exception I would say is Pacquiao vs Hussein where Pacquiao seemd to get a 30 minute count after getting knocked down.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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  8. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'll admit I didn't want to be the one to bring this up but I agree , I think some Italian people will feel I have a vendetta against them now .

    Johnny Nelson taunting the Italian crowed after winning a SD(which imo should have been a UD) over Cantatore was priceless . They booed after the decision and then Nelson went over to each side of the ring held his belt aloft and made a face identical to this-:shock: hilarious stuff .

    Apparently Gurov was robbed against Cantatore very recently for the European title , not suprising as Cantatore is the most popular Italian fighter and the only one with serious backing nowdays . If it wasn't for there being two American judges in Nelson's fight he would have lost his title .



    [I'd like to note I have no problem with Italian people , their boxers or the country in general , just the politics of boxing in Italy]
     
  9. marting

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    I've seen bad decisions in Japan, U.S., Germany, and England. Where I've had the most complaint is with ref's. At some small shows in the U.S., Mexico and Puerto Rico I've seen some utterly ridiculous behavior by refs.

    I hate to see refs becoming "regulars" for particular fighters who have links to certain promoters. That happens way too much in this game.

    As far as Germany's bad rap, in boxing gyms for a long time it was a tag that was very big amongst black fighters. I had heard it lot from unheralded fighters that were real road warriors fighting all over the globe. Stories of German fights were peppered with accounts of bad hotels in ridiculously inconvenient locations, missing reservations, late-night calls, bad food, and other strange going ons. It seemed to come to a peak with Chris Byrd and his rantings and now seems to have been addressed.